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Ciamillo is back with World’s Lightest carbon crankset at 279g?!

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It would be easy to look at the weight of the Gravitas Gen 13 cranksets and think, “that’s probably the weight for one of the arms.” But no. That fairly unbelievable claim of 279g includes both arms, spider, spindle, and the hardware. That should make it the lightest crankset out there – which was Ted Ciamillo’s goal from the outset.

As Ted would tell it though, he didn’t really want to get back into producing cranksets. But thanks to a number of customers begging for a new run, he decided to take aim at the ‘world’s lightest’ title in the process.

Ciamillo Gravitas Gen 13 carbon crankset

Built around hollow carbon fiber crank arms with an internal honeycomb structure for strength, the crankset uses a removable carbon spindle with alloy bearing faces.

This spindle construction allows the spindle to be customized during construction to fit different bottom bracket standards and chain lines (43.5 and 44.5mm). The crankset will be available to fit SRAM DUB and all 30mm spindle configurations–though there’s no 24mm spindle option.

integrated chainring spider
3D rendering of the final product

The chainring spider will be fully carbon and integrated into the crank arm. This spider is 2x specific, though Ciamillo may have a 1x compatible version by late spring. The crankset does not include chainrings, so you’ll have to provide your own compact 110 BCD chainrings – though Ciamillo recommends Praxis Buzz rings.

How much is the ‘world’s lightest crankset’? You may want to sit down. Even before adding chainrings and a bottom bracket, the Gravitas Gen 13 crankset will set you back $1,888. That price includes the arms, spider, spindle, and hardware. As mentioned, you’ll have to provide your own bottom bracket and chainrings.

Offered in 170mm or 172.5mm arms only, the cranks have a 110kg weight limit and will begin shipping on March 23. Stay tuned for an actual review soon!

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Frank
Frank
2 years ago

Not even a real picture…

Jaap
Jaap
2 years ago
Reply to  Frank

With production numbers this low, the first pictures will be 2 days before the first customer receives it.

mes
mes
2 years ago

‘As Ted would tell it though, he didn’t really want to get back into producing cranksets.’

Seriously? Is anyone still willing to give this man money? You know the old saying ‘a fool and his money are soon parted’? Don’t care how innovative the product is, given his history, how does one even consider airing product announcements from someone who has on multiple occasions defrauded so many people over the past 10-12 years?

mud
mud
2 years ago

You say he will begin shipping on March 23 – only two weeks from this announcement – yet all he can provide is a computer image. Not a good sign, I would say.

Speshy
Speshy
2 years ago

Side note: Ciamillo also makes brakes engineered for use on Bromptons. Weird.

Gordo
Gordo
2 years ago

Ted’s always been a madman.
But he cranks are shipping March 23rd and they’re still just showing renders? Sounds, uh… optimistic.
And at that claimed weight and price I’d want to see some instrumented testing

Astro_Kraken
Astro_Kraken
2 years ago

I bought the NFT of the rendering and it’s more real than any of the cranksets people think they’re ordering.

Lewdvig
Lewdvig
2 years ago

Don’t know anything about Ted or allegations that he defrauded people, but I love the Ciamillo products I’ve owned.

I had negative G brakes that I transferred between bikes because I loved them so much. They only fit 25mm or I’d still have them.

If I see one of these cranksets at a local shop I’d have to try it out.

Bubbrubb
Bubbrubb
2 years ago

Terrible biz, ripped many bike shops off. Buyer beware, he’s got a crap rep for a reason, do not believe anything these guys say.

Joma
Joma
2 years ago

Bought Lekki8 brakes in 2020, only to find they were machined outside margin of safety. All lower calliper arms cracked and despite repeated attempts to get customer service, never got response. Based on this experience, any drive for lightest cranks by this company make me think twice about safety of product.

Greg
Greg
2 years ago

So, a ~440g crankset with 50/34 Praxis Buzz chainrings for $2 grand?!?! With questionable reliability, quality and reputation??

No thanks. I’ll stick with my Rotor Aldhu Carbon that weighs in at 518g (on a laboratory quality scale) for $650.

FrenchPress
FrenchPress
2 years ago

They said March 23rd….maybe for 2024?

For all the cows
For all the cows
2 years ago

BR didn’t deem it necessary to perhaps mention in passing the history of the man behind the company?

Robin
Robin
2 years ago

BR is about bike rumors and new or upcoming products, not investigative journalism. Moreover, not everyone has had a bad experience with Ciamillo. Opinions are not facts, and what’s read online in forums or FB groups are not necessarily facts. So why then would BR then want to repeat what might not necessarily be fact and thus risk libel or just look bad in the process?

sued
sued
2 years ago
Reply to  Robin

They could simply choose to not publish computer rendered press releases from highly suspect companies, that would be a good jumping off point.

Greg
Greg
2 years ago
Reply to  Robin

Other bicycle related news sources can mention major reputation issues, so can Bikerumor. Frankly, it’s irresponsible of them to NOT mention it. It wouldn’t take more than 30 minutes and a few emails to have 100% proof of Camillo’s shenanigans.

Mark
Mark
2 years ago
Reply to  Greg

Yes, Shame on you BikeRumor for not sharing the full story.

Astro_Kraken
Astro_Kraken
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s bike RUMOR not bike REALITY. Name a brand that exists less in the real world. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Robin
Robin
2 years ago
Reply to  Greg

That’s funny. Your faux outrage got in the way of your reading comprehension and objectivity.

Trilobite
Trilobite
2 years ago

Buyer beware. Only renders but you can already buy the cranks. Incredible. Ted needs the money for a first production badge (prototypes?). Starts shipping on March 23? Sure… Oh, but maybe March 2023?

G. Robins
G. Robins
2 years ago

To quote Ted himself:
We operate from an inventory-only basis and we will grow organically from here. If you are able to order from this site or one of my distributors, it is because the product is sitting here with your name on it and it will ship within 24 hours.”

So, he’s either changed the business model or lied. I guess we’ll find out in a few weeks.

Eric
Eric
2 years ago

I don’t fault BR for publishing it. Judging by the buzz in the comments and other cross linked forum posts — it is newsworthy and interesting for average joes like me to read about. Now whether this is vaporware or the next big thing… that’s for consumers to do their own research (googling will return a lot of hits).

Frank
Frank
2 years ago

I am another very happy longtime user of Ciamillo brake calipers. It always saddens me to hear of Ciamillo’s bad business reputation. I bought new but second-hand, so cannot comment about buying direct from Ted C.

Jim E
Jim E
2 years ago

I’ll wait until Dangerholm has an actual pair on one of his builds.

mes
mes
2 years ago

I think those who purchased Ciamillo products from online retailers who had the items in stock did not have many issues. The problems were mainly centered on those who opted to order direct or needed replacement under warranty.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

I wonder what the warranty is? My experience with SRAM carbon cranks is not good. The pedal thread insert came unglued making the cranks useless.

Gordo
Gordo
2 years ago

Well, it’s March 25th and there still isn’t even a single non-computer generated image of them…

Bruce Hermann
Bruce Hermann
1 year ago

I bought a crank from Ted which broke after a few months. He would not honor the warranty nor answer emails or phone calls. I eventually reported him to BBB, and he didn’t even respond to them. STAY AWAY!

Steve M
Steve M
1 year ago

Don’t buy from Ted, he is a complete fraud. I ordered a set of Gravitas 13 cranks on 1/20/23. He has stopped responding and not sent a refund. Over 80 days. Stole $1,300 from me.

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