Take Your 11-36 Cassette to the Next Level with OneUp Components’ 42t Sprocket

Overpriced. General Lee, Recon, brand-whatever…, as well.
Full (10 cogs) casette – 10sp / 11-40t / 84.- EUR / 115.- USD
This is overpriced already as well, but this is a full casette, not just 1 cog:
http://www.werk.cz/html/e-shop/index.htm

You must be joking! If you remove the 17t cog, the gap between cogs isn’t proportional. With a 11-13-15-19-21-24-28-32-36-42 cassette de gaps will be 2-2-4-2-3-4-4-4-6. You have 4 teeth gap between 15-19, and 2 teeth between 19-21.

If you want a good proportional cassette, you have to remove 17t and 19t cog, and replace it with 18t a 42t cog. The new gearing will be: 11-13-15-18-21-24-28-32-36-42 with proporcional gaps: 2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-6.

I think Shimano and Sram could make a 11-42 10v. cassette with 11-13-15-18-21-24-28-32-36-42 gearing.

g-translate:
SK-US
http://forum.mtbiker.sk/komponenty/prechod-z-3-x-10-na-1-x-10-t32825-240.html
DE-US
http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/showthread.php?t=601751&page=207

Nice color. But the gearing is terrible. The jump from 15t to 19t cog is more than 26%! We sell our rebuilt 10speed cassette 11-40t with gearing 11-13-15-17-20-23-26-30-34-40t. Complete cassette for less than 100Eur.

Agreed this is an awesome product, and more cost effective than the General Lee cassette. But $100 for a simple CNC’ed single cog is BS, in fact cog for cog this is more than the infamous XX1 cassette. Come on guys

Incorrectly machined inner spline of that cog. It will be incompatible with ~99% of hubs out there.

That looks nice, but General Lee’s wide cassette is $140. It’s too expencive for only 1 cog.

Pretty much the same product made out of stainless has been available for months for $35 on ebay. A lesson in the power of marketing I’d say.

I would strongly encourage anyone complaining about the price to design, produce, package, and market something similar for less than $100. You clearly know better than these guys how to do all of this so very much cheaper, and I’m sure your expertise will be very much appreciated by those looking to save a few dollars.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/41-Tooth-Cog-for-Mountain-Bike-Cassette-41t-Sprocket-/261323976497?pt=US_Cassettes_Freewheels_Cogs&hash=item3cd81f6f31

$40, my bad.

Do you have a link for that Eddie?

There’s some good comments here. Nice!

The stainless unit via ebay looks like it would shift like garbage tho. No ramps or pins to help with shifting and the tooth profile looks quite different than any I’ve seen. It’s not comparable to the involute patterns of non-shifting ansi sprockets and it’s not comparable to the more open pattern for cassetts and chainrings so where did it come from?

Thanks Kristina and John for good points r/e the gear spacing and alternate solutions. The Werke site unfortunately is a bitch to decipher tho.

I like the idea of the oneup solution but I think would prefer to go to a 40t vs 42t

In general tho adding a few teeth to the back would allow me to go larger with a single chainring for more top end which could be nice.

These guys are smart- they’ve priced the product high enough to make themselves money (people do business in order to make money), and low enough to save you hundreds of dollars compared to getting the “real” SRAM XX1 drivertrain.
The steel one on eBay is a cheap and probably effective solution, but not as light as this one.

http://www.gear-calculator.com/#KB=24,38&RZ=11,13,15,17,19,21,24,28,32,36&GR=DERS&KB2=32&RZ2=11,13,15,15,19,21,24,28,32,36,42&GT2=DERS&UF2=2120&TF=92&UF=2120&SL=2

I’m in doubt. My bike is a XTR & XT mix. I won’t go to Sram, but I feel 1×10 (or 1×11) is the way to go for me. The Lee adapters didn’t convince me because in my experience experimental drivetrain combinations never shift as good as the original parts working together + less durability, …

100$ is a lot of money knowing you get added range but loose some good shifting performance. And who knows what Shimano will bring out in 2014. Better save the 100$ untill it is clear how Shimano will respond to XX1 ??

I’m running a similar setup a friend made me as a hobby piece. Simply removing the 17T cog will give you a weird drop. I took off both my 17 and 15t cogs and replaced it with a 16t cog from an old 9 speed cassette I took off. Instead of going 19-15-13 now, I go 19-16-13.

You can also keep the 17, and just remove the 11 adding a 13T first position sprocket:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/13-Tooth-Cog-Mountain-Bike-Cassettes-13t-Sprocket-/251374303731?pt=US_Cassettes_Freewheels_Cogs&hash=item3a871379f3

I’m sorry can we just lose the 11t cog and put in the 42? I can’t remember the last time I used mine.
Ultimately aren’t we free to choose which cog we give up?

@alex, you could lose the 11t but you would need to find a 12t cog from a 12-something cassette. You need one with the serated surface for the cassette lock ring.

I like the idea. I just don’t like not being able to use a SRAM PG1080 cassette or higher.

I’ve been running this 41 tooth (from eBay) all summer, works pretty well, and with SRAM XO drivetrain. I ditched the 11 tooth instead of the 17, that’s my least used gear. Up front I have a Race Face 32 tooth (pre narrow-wide) and it’s my “poor man XX1”, minus 1.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/261323976497?nav=WATCHING&sbk=1

Cost aside it’s an option to go 1X10 on bigger rides and options are what we all like, right? Good job OneUp!

This looks like an incredibly bad idea without a carrier to spread the load out. The top 3 gears on any modern cassette are on a common carrier to spread out the load so that the gear doesn’t dig into, score, and eventually jam/slip on the cassette body. Even with a steel cassette body I wouldn’t use this, as the load will be incredible with a 42t ring. There are already much better 1×10 stop-gap products avail.

Thanks for all comments. Please checkout our compatibility and installation website info for answers to a lot for these questions.

Specifically regarding the freehub load comments we have close to 4mm of spline engagement. This is very similar to the engagement between XX1 and an XD driver.

I love all the armchair engineers claiming to know how much these cost to make.

I love it, great idea…for a 1×10 set up this is a game changer. As for the cost!?!? 100 Bucks, (85 with the promo), that’s not bad, a lot of people I know spend 85 dollars on tires….that’s a bit ludicrous don’t ya think? So go out to your bike and add up how much you have in Rubber on your hoops, then compare it to a sedan tire, or even a motorcycle tire, then we cant talk expensive.

But first I’m commenting directly to OneUp, as I have a question. Will you guys be offering in the kit a replacement for the 11T instead of the 17T, or will you supply the info needed and part numbers to do that swap instead of the 17, IMO this would be great for marketing, as it allows the customer to chose what jumps he or she would like to make, with a result in making your product even more appealing.

My reasoning is this;
Yes I see on paper that you will have less “Range” doing it this way. However, I’ve yet to ride my bikes on paper, but I hear it’s super fun. I unfortunately ride my bikes on dirt, up hills, in the mud, over rocks, and downed trees and all that mountain biking type stuff. So with that said, I rarely ever use my 11T ring, save for traveling or storing the bike to take some tension off the derailleur spring. So I would certainly be game to replace a cog I don’t use, for one that I certainly will with a 1×10 set up, (your 42T).

Also I gave some thought to the speculation of the ring digging into the free hub body. Correct me if I am wrong, which I probably am, but while in a granny gear, ie the 42T isn’t it quite easier to pedal, so essentially you are putting less torgue into the drive train at this taller gearing? Thus lessening the stress on the drive train. Whereas if you are in smaller gear it takes more physical force to move the pedals thus that force is transfered through the drive? Further thought brought me to an idea that this 42T will not be used that often, so then even lowering the risk for free hub injury if you will. Now that’s just arm chair hearkening back to High School Physics there, nothing concrete, but just a thought.

To OneUp, thanks in advance, I hope you can respond to my question.
To interweb engineers and number cruncher’s….keep riding, it’ll make ya happier.