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AASQ #127: Horst-Link Suspension Layouts with RAAW MTB

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Welcome back to the Bikerumor Ask A Stupid Question series! Where stupid and not-so-stupid questions alike are answered by relevant experts across the cycling industry. This week we’re answering a reader’s question about the adoption of the Horst-Link suspension design. We’re joined by Ruben Torenbeek, Managing Director of RAAW, creators of the Madonna and Jibb full suspension mountain bikes that both use a Horst-Link layout.

When Specialized owned the Horst-Link/Four-Bar patent, competitors and industry suspension gurus claimed it wasn’t very good. Now that the patent has expired, why are lots of companies now resorting to using this “not good” design for their own bikes?

RAAW: We’ve only been around since the patent has expired, but surely brands have become more interested in the layout now. What’s interesting here is that the Horst-Link in itself doesn’t say much about the performance of the bike.

raaw madonna v2.2 complete bike with ohlins coil shock
RAAW recently updated the Madonna to improve force flow through the rocker of the Horst-Link layout into the frame

You can bet that the characteristics of a bike with a Horst-Link will go in a certain direction. But suspension designs with Horst-Links can differ a lot. You can make a really good and a really bad suspension design, both based on the same principle. And also, different bikes require different layouts, so there will never be one ‘truth’.

raaw madonna v2.2 redesigned around single piece hydroformed aluminium seat tube lighter stronger
The Madonna V2.2 was redesigned around a single-piece hydroformed aluminium seat tube, now lighter and stronger

We like the four-bar-link layout with a Horst-Link because it allows for a bit more of a separation between pedaling characteristics and braking influence. A bike with a Horst-Link tends to have lower anti-rise values (braking influence). Without the Horst-Link, the suspension would be a single pivot design, meaning that that rear wheel rotates around a fixed point as it goes through the travel. The fixed point being the main pivot.

raaw jibb runs bearing shock pivots not bushings
Like the Madonna, the Jibb runs a bottom bracket sized main pivot for massive durability

But, with the Horst-Link, there are now more members of the suspension design that determine around which point the rear wheel rotates. And, that point actually changes as the suspension cycles through its travel. We call this the instant centre (IC).

raaw madonna v2.2 action shot corner shralp

It’s a deep dive into suspension design, but in the end it simply creates a bit more of a complex layout, with more options to tweak and balance the different suspension characteristics. For us this meant that we could have high pedaling efficiency combined with a low amount of braking influence (active braking). The active braking allows the suspension to work uninterrupted without locking up and being harsh under braking.

But, it is important to underline that the benefits of a Horst-Link are only a small part of the big puzzle.

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jamesemiltonlcswcacii
2 years ago

Having owned both, I can’t imagine why some brands are offering single pivots again. I get the simplicity argument, but owning a single pivot bike equals more drivetrain maintenance and brake pad replacements.

nooner
nooner
2 years ago

Ease of manufacturing is why we are seeing regression back to single pivots, and solid rear triangle designs. $$$$$ Think profits…

TP
TP
2 years ago

Not a single piece of information. This article is a joke.

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