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If you’ve ever bought anything online, bike related or not, this might give you a perspective of what challenges local retailers face and why companies like Atomik are taking steps to get more people in their local bike shop.

Browse past the break and see why companies like Atomik are trying to get people off the couch and back into the shop, and why this may be a good thing we  see more of in the future…..

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The buying habits of consumers has never remained consistent since the dawn of time. From the first barter system, to the the birth of currency, the advancements in transportation of goods, to the current global network we know as the internet. Retailers have scrambled throughout time trying to adjust, grow, and sometimes just stay in business. Though the internet is the current challenge for brick and mortar retailers, is it nothing other than just another generation of an ever-evolving marketplace?

One major drawback to all of this, and not to just the local businesses, but to the consumer as well, is with this pattern, the loss of personal service and care to the customer occurs. Over time, with every change made to make items less expensive and easier to obtain, it has diminished the level of customer service to the consumer. Retailers have had to make adjustments to survive that sometimes involve stocking fewer items and paying lower wages which in turn cause fewer impulse buys and make it harder to retain quality employees. Add to that the consumer’s expectations being higher than ever for immediate receiving of goods and ultimate customer service, (or they might Yelp at them)…….. See the cycle here?

While the number of cycling consumers and dollars spent is on the rise, the number of local bicycle shops (LBS), have declined simply due to a rough adaption to the blazing rate of today’s market place. If you want to nerd out a bit on the direction of our industry in regards to where the LBS was and is heading, here is a great article from The American Bicyclist blog by respected consultant, Jay Townly.

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Now look at a company like Atomik whose carbon rims and bars we’ve recently covered at Interbike as well as their foam core fat bike rims. They are not a powerhouse brand like Shimano who the industry is practically dependent on. They are a  growing brand in a highly competitive marketplace where there are far more of brands to compete against than ever (hence consumers have more choices). Despite the number of online purchases increasing, without having a brand in the hands of specialty retailers, where it can get (direct) exposure to the consumer, growth and sustainability is all but impossible. This is the catch 22 where Atomik wants to change things.

Atomik Carbon Fatty carbon fiber tubeless wide fat bike rims

To further show Atomik’s commitment to the LBS, their new “Direct to Consumer” online sales model is designed to allow consumers to purchase their products directly off of Atomik’s website, to which Atomik will direct the consumer to Atomik’s nearest “top-tier” stocking dealer to pick up their product. A check to the dealer will arrive with the shipment reflecting the set margin as if the shop sold it directly off their floor, (“top-tier” stocking dealers will be privy to higher margins). Atomik says that by including the local dealer in the consumer’s purchase, they’re exposing the consumer to a better level of service that reflects their brand as well as increasing their brand presence at the dealer level to gain better exposure all while supporting the local shops.

 

From Atomik:

“We’re a generation of online shoppers seeking instant gratification, more choices and less hassle,” said Kevin Lineberger, Atomik’s vice president. “The goal is to expand the visibility and availability of the brand, while honoring the commitment we made early on to support local bike shops.”

“We believe in our IBDs, but can’t ignore the fact that the internet exists and it’s a huge marketplace. We’re investing in the growth of the brand as well as our dealer network while making it easier than ever for the consumer to ride the best,” said Lineberger. “The goal here is to benefit everyone.”

 

All products will be available for purchase at AtomikCarbon.com for full MSRP with shipping and handling charges included to the closest Top Tier dealer. If there is not a local Top Tier dealer, product will be shipped to the closest non-stocking dealer. Fulfilling dealers will receive a check along with the product shipment reflecting margin.

A new shopping cart feature will be live on the site beginning Monday, November 16, 2015. Until then, consumers can use the temporary Direct Sales inquiry form found on the site.

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JZ
JZ
9 years ago

Good luck with that. How about they just ship it to me and send a check to the nearest dealer.

Ryan
Ryan
9 years ago

What happens when the nearest (non-stocking) dealer is around 100 miles away? Will they then ship direct?

mac
mac
9 years ago

That’s cute. I don’t patronize any local shops because none of them will stock high end parts. Now we’re going to reward them for receiving a package on my behalf? This program should only be available to dealers that will buy samples and/or keep demo wheels on hand.

Ck
Ck
9 years ago

If I made the decision to purchase from somewhere other than my LBS, i’m certainly not likely to buy from a brand that’s forcing me to go back through my LBS to get what I want.

Pit
Pit
9 years ago

A lot of this article is opinion. So, imo Lbs should focus more on novice bikes and let the market take its course. Lots of brick and mortar retailers are getting whacked by this. There are tough situations with any business or career. For people who ride a lot of miles, we have to learn to maintain our own bikes top to bottom. Its just not efficient otherwise.

thesteve4761
thesteve4761
9 years ago

I wonder if local authorities (city, county, and state) will have a bone to pick about this, since they are missing the tax revenue from a sale that is routed through a physical business within their jurisdiction?

Some Dude,
Some Dude,
9 years ago

So, the Trek online business model. lets see if it works.

mac
mac
9 years ago

Good point. And this also means that I’d have to pay sales tax because it’s getting shipped to a retailer rather than directly to me.

call420
call420
9 years ago

are stocking dealers allowed to sell them online too? that seems to cut out the run-around…

Craig
Craig
9 years ago

Even if my local shops(s) had the item I wouldn’t want to to go and pick up a purchased item because a), it saves time getting it sent to my house, and b), I don’t like the poor customer service attitude of the majority of the staff in most shops. If I buy online I want to come home from work a few days later and have the item sitting at my back door.

FoolCyclist
FoolCyclist
9 years ago

Haven’t NEEDED to go to a LBS in years. I do once in a while stop by and see if they have any huge deals on older models. Usually, they have a poor selection of mid to lower level stuff and then the staff is usually pretty clueless on higher end products that are not Specialized, Trek, or Cannondale. There are a few exceptions to this though, I admit that. However, I can get just about any product I want at way better prices than the local shops are even willing to come close to. I can get the manager to offer to order frames or full bikes for me, but when they tell you the price its around 10 – 20% higher than I can pull up on my phone while I am there talking to him. I do all my own work and installations and have all the tools I need. If I have an issue I cant fix, I have no problem paying full shop fees for it. LBSs need to come to the realization that the industry is outpacing their sales with such fast latest and greatest upgrades every six months. They need to be willing to compete with the internet stores that can have a product at my door in a few days at lower price if they want me to come into the shop for anything.

Not sure this approach is the answer to that. Why cant I just order a competitor to Atomik at the discounted rates I get from the internet stores and skip the hassle of having to go to the shop?

bearCol
bearCol
9 years ago

Just let the free market do its thing Atomic. If you make something that interests me, and your price is competitive I’ll buy it, but if you make me talk to a human to buy a part I could have dropped at my door I’ll support a different company.

I’m hoping direct to my door becomes the norm and shops evolve to be service centers rather than retail outlets.

Francois
Francois
9 years ago

There was a bike company (Trek?) that wanted to make their bikes available online, and have them shipped to the closest bike shop. This can make sense because then the bike shop assembles the bike, and can even adjust the saddle/bars for you: they provide a service.

In Atomik’s case, you have to pay the LBS to keep your package. It’s an inconvenience (you have to go there, and during business hours), and it costs money. I don’t see people jumping on board.

If they want to help the LBS, they could come up with a system where you could see on their website which LBS has the product you’re looking for in stock. Going to the LBS would then save you the shipping time & cost, and you could look at the product before buying it (and ask the people there for advice at the same time).
Obviously this would imply that the shops keep the items in their inventory, which I guess was one of the problems in the first place…

JBikes
JBikes
9 years ago

I love in person bike/part browsing, but sometimes I feel like shops hire personnel from a secret headhunter that specialized in those with poor people skills.

Mike D
9 years ago

I always love the comment thread on any article that references the LBS as a force for good. Never a shortage of “those bike shop people are all bozos!” or “I work on my own stuff, why would I EVER need a LBS?” Hahaha, it’s hilarious.
People b*tching about the lack of selection or ‘high end’ bikes at their local shop probably have no idea how retail business works. Alas, like anything these days, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. If Atomic makes a killer product at a decent price, thus driving up demand, people are going to go where they have to in order to receive said product. If stopping into your LBS is just too painful or inconvenient for you (*gasp*) then you can find a different bike shop or ride something else. Done deal.

Stewart
Stewart
9 years ago

Because bike shops stock high end carbon rims already, right? LOL. We already buy Chinese carbon rims for $300 each incl. shipping factory direct already from China delivered. This is going to be a hard uphill battle for Atomik with this business model and the recent factory direct model that Asia has set up. For reference, I got a pair of http://www.nextie-bike.com/mtb/carbon-fiber-650b-wheels-clincher-hookless/NXT27AM40 delivered for $430 in 10 days.

Agree, let bike shops focus on service and commodity items.

Sean P
Sean P
9 years ago

@MikeD. I completely agree. There are some things I don’t want to try on my own or I can’t do on my own. Some of my tubeless set ups won’s seat correctly all the time, even with an air compressor. So, my LBS is super helpful (just one example). There are also some things I’d like to see in the Flesh or get someone else’s angle on regarding a certain product. Luckily I have a super nice LBS and I understand that they aren’t sitting in a little box selling stuff on the interwebs (for little more than cost) and actually have this thing called overhead. Oh, and if you have a problem with an item you’ve purchased from an LBS? They tend to help you out there. Good luck with Amazon or a far east distributor.

Chris L
Chris L
9 years ago

I worked in shops for a number of years but that said, many bike shops have dug their own grave. A short list of issues could include:
1) Selection. Any shop even attempting to keep an assortment of mid to high end parts in stock is basically digging themselves into a hole. It’s a lot of space to given up to items which have very low turn rates and very low margins. Add to this ever changing technical standards. I wonder how many shops have high end ISIS bottom brackets gathering dust on their shelves! I’ll never understand why a LBS would stock any high end parts.
2) Service. Way too many shops out there have terrible customer service skills. This is especially true when dealing with women. My wife has been talked down to so many times in shops that she won’t set foot in one. Which is too bad because my wife makes way, WAY more money than anyone working in any bike shop.
3) Merchandising. Too many shops seem to resemble a permanent garage sale rather than a professionally run retail establishment.

Given the above it’s little surprise so many shops have shuttered in recent years. The upside is the shops which do remain are often a notch above and do add real value above and beyond what an online retailer can offer. Smart shops these days are putting their emphasis on consumables (chains, tubes, brake pads, etc.), soft goods, bike sales and repairs. Consumables are often an item where people don’t want to wait on delivery. Soft goods are an area where people still want to try something on before they buy. Complete bikes still make sense because they need to be assembled and most people are not proficient enough to do this. Repairs are direct billable hours. Components OTOH are low margin and low turn so far better to turn this over to the online world.

As for Atomik, it’s an interesting idea but I’m not seeing how it adds any tangible value for the consumer. If they had a package where you could order rims and then take your hubs to your LBS and have them calculate spoke length and lace the wheel then you’d be adding a value. If they partnered parts with installation services they might be on to something. Simply forcing you to go to a shop to pick up the part…not so much.

Ol' Shel'
Ol' Shel'
9 years ago

Nouveau-high-end buyers don’t see the value of bike shops. Nor do they seem to care if cycling remains a popular activity for children and families or if it continues to employ people.

Nope, these people tend to think only of themselves.

Bike shops are important for the future health of cycling. Supporting them means paying more than you would by buying through the mail.

What?
What?
9 years ago

Yep, this comment section is all about me, me , me with no thought of others. This world has become a cesspool of greed.

Good post Ol!

bearCol
bearCol
9 years ago

Are riders buying online hurting shops or is the industry’s high whole sale pricing and constant standards changing killing shops?

Adam
Adam
9 years ago

Who’s atomic and why should i go out of my way to overpay for their stuff? That’s why this this offer is garbage.

(not) Stephen Colbert
(not) Stephen Colbert
9 years ago

Yep, I wake every morning and say “I wonder how my LBS is doing today”. Then I drive 40 minutes each way during work hours (because they are only open during my work hours) and buy parts for about 30%-40% more than I can find it online…because I care about the LBS.

I do all the research online, find all the information, then tell the guys at the shop all about it and have them special order it for me…because I care. (It’s to bad that they don’t take returns on special orders however.)

If I can’t get out of work and drive down to the shop I try to send information via email to my local shop, but the owners aol inbox is usually full… but again, I see this as my contribution to the local bike community…because I care.

I think it’s great that Atomik is taking pity on the LBS. If we don’t pity them how will they survive?

Oh! and! Jay! Townly!…It’s! a! good! thing! we! still! have! him! around! to! guide! us!!!!!!

over it
over it
9 years ago

Been in the game for a while

Say someone comes in with a bike/component with a warranty issue. They did not buy the bike at your store, yet they push to submit a claim that A is not in fact worthy of a replacement/warranty, B out of warranty, C something you can fix for a fee but they are not willing to pay, or D just a dick about the whole process being a burden in every way. Are you inclined to jump through hoops for them? NO

Now say Bob walks in. Bob spends alot of money at your store. Are you more inclined to help Bob out? Will you submit they claim and sweet talk the rep even though it might not be worthy? YES Will you take an item out of stock and wait for a replacement to make him happy? EVERY TIME

This is not saying the lbs should only help loyal customers out, it is saying don’t expect the lbs to treat that someone that only came in because online it says you are the local X product dealer like we treat Bob

Now say joe blow walks in with a part that was sent to your store for him to pick up as mentioned. Along with this part was the easiest money your shop has ever made. Will you help more inclined to work with the customer in the future? you bet. EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY does this show initiative on the manufacturer’s part? absolutely.

Even when a major manufacturer says they will pay for shop time for warranties it is usually not worth the time/effort to follow up on it.

All of the “I don’t need an lbs I am a bike genius” then none of this applies to you. Do not set foot in a shop with that attitude. Do not walk back the the service department, pretend you are asking questions about your bike with intention of buying it from us, turn around and order it online. Do not tell us how expensive everything is, if you cannot figure out what overhead is than you are not a bike wizard. The info we gave you was a service and you should pay for it.

If you buy a product online and bring it to your lbs for install and it is wrong, buy it for full price from the experts and don’t complain . You were not capable of ordering parts for your bike, so you do not deserve the online discount. It is earned with knowledge, trial and error.

the fact that we don’t have that obscure part or super high end part should not reflect negatively on us. There are hundreds of standards and it is too expensive and a flat up waste of capital to have it tied up in inventory that will not sell 99% of the time. That 53T dura ace chainring in colorado? fat chance

JBikes
JBikes
9 years ago

@Ol Shel – I’m lucky to live in one of the most popular cyclist area in the U.S. And enjoy the good shops that brings so I try to support them on most items even if it means I pay more (and selfishly I just like bike shops)
But how is a shop in and of itself important for the future of cycling? Parents, cyclists and a supportive cying community are the future of cycling as well as the future of bike shops.

Drew Diller
9 years ago

I like having stuff shipped to a shop for certain high value items. Why:

1) Neighborhood rats (of any ethnicity) steal my stuff! I can’t trust having anything outdoors for very long, as it will soon disappear.
2) Sometimes the wait at FedEx drop locations is very very long.

Just sayin’

Allan
Allan
9 years ago

I’ve been in enough LBS’ to know the vast majority of them suck. At least 10 in area I live, and shops in other places where I’ve visited, or rented bikes, etc. The customer service is usually terrible, and their knowledge level is a joke at best. There is not one good reason to shop at a LBS for commonly available parts, even water bottles. Besides, almost any part I’ve ever needed is not in stock at the LBS. But again, the main point is the clueless and disinterested staff members. If you want people to support your local business, you need to at least pretend you know what you are talking about, and that you care about customers. There is one shop I frequent quite often, you know why? Because they are actually polite, and take time to answer questions, and show interest in what I’m in there for. I’ll bet a lot of people are like me, starved for GOOD customer service, and are actually willing to patronize businesses that take customer service seriously. It’s a two way street…I’m never, ever going to feel guilty for “thinking about me, me, me” when most LBS’ don’t give two shizz about customers.

Kyle
Kyle
9 years ago

Seems like they’re trying to dodge some shipping costs. UPS and FedEx charge more to ship to a residential address. They’re then turning around and paying the difference to the shop who in turn has a reason to push Atomik’s products.

It’s free marketing.

Kernel Flickitov
Kernel Flickitov
9 years ago

The rider throwing a whip on that trail shot has got to be some of the WORST photoshop skills I have ever seen. This Atomik brand, they can’t be for real can they?

Bazz
Bazz
9 years ago

Trek and a number of other companies are doing this as well. What if I’m in a small town in the middle of wherever and they don’t have a Atomik “top-tier” dealer? Will they then sell to me on line? These guys, Trek and Giant included need to sell direct, online to shop and in shop. It’s just another sales avenue.

mac
mac
9 years ago

If we’re having a pity party for the shops, why don’t we feel bad that atomik appears to be cutting the distributors (qbp, bti, etc) out of their business plan?

haromania
haromania
9 years ago

“Over it” for the win!!!!

i
i
9 years ago

So LBSs are basically charity cases in Atomik’s model. Consumer buys from Atomik, then has to go through the hassle of going to a dealer to pick it up, the dealer provides not service whatsoever, and gets paid. I’m sure the guys at Atomik feel good about themselves, that that’s what charity is all about.

Yeah, that’s going to prop up the industry. If only Netflix had thought of that before Blockbuster went under.

i
i
9 years ago

@over it: don’t worry, you won’t be in the game much longer. Your attitude is what makes a smart shop owner fire people, or a less smart owner go out of business.

Ryan
Ryan
9 years ago

Reading these comments, I’m SO fortunate to have the best, coolest, friendliest, smartest, most awesome LBS in the world. I’ve shared many of these negative comments and feelings about 99% of the LBS’s I’ve dealt with over 40 years, but my current LBS is amazing in every aspect.

thor
9 years ago

and if there is no dealer in a 1000 , 500, 100, 50 ?????? mile radius, than one gets the stuff like if nothing happened …..
just a scheme to get stocking dealers
who controls if every shipment gets allocated to a dealer ?

yeah right …

Ross
Ross
9 years ago

How bout they ship direct to my house and give me the check? Why would the lbs get paid for doing nothing (except storing the stuff, which I don’t even want)?

If the lbs doesn’t have a business model that works, they shouldn’t rely on charity. Long term, they need to focus on entry level, service and convenience items (tubes, bottles, etc.). I’m glad to buy those things at the lbs because they are providing a value to me.

Tom
Tom
9 years ago

I worked in a bike shop for a long time. As a high schooler working on bikes I never quite got it and disliked mail order (now the internet) people. Now I’m an adult and I do. Retail on any level is tough and evolving at the fastest pace yet. I know when I order parts on the internet it hurts shops. But you know what sucks? Paying 10% sales tax and allot more (generally 15% and up) for bike parts when going through a shop. Sorry LBS, I only have so much money and want to spend it wisely. Like most people that stay with cycling for along time, I don’t really need the service side of a shop either. Retail is changing and I have no pitty for the poor bike shop. Some one mentioned service focused shops. And shops that actually stock basic repair parts. That’d be great. I’d totally go to them for small stuff. Grips, chains, cassettes, pulleys, etc. To bad none around me do that so I just order online. Heck, you don’t even need to go to a shop to ask where the good places to ride are anymore. The entire cycling lifestyle is online. I’ll still go to to a LBS for a quality bike for my kids or an inner tube and a cable every once and a while but honestly, You can find great almost un-used quality kids bikes on craigslist for way cheaper. And I’ll just throw some tubes and cables on my internet order with the parts that the good shops don’t wanna stock due to constantly changing standards and trends. Last time I bought a tube at a shop it cost me over 12 bucks with tax. Could have gotten two online for that price. I’m not interested in driving a car for an hour plus round trip to the shops that have a good selection of parts and knowledgeable staff. I’d rather spend my limited time with my family or riding or working on the endless list of house chores and projects. Bike shops are dying. Oh well. Maybe they should just start selling bike stuff at hardware stores like the days before Schwinn and the LBS. The hardware store is always busy.

mAEssiv
mAEssiv
9 years ago

My favorite lbs buys and sells used stuff, as well as having some new inventory and providing great service for things I don’t do often enough to warrant owning the tool, for example swapping out my crown race onto a new fork. In which case I paid nothing because I traded that service for the old fork, which they’ll use to build up an entry-level bike that they can offer to a new enthusiast at a really great price. So they’re lowering the barrier to entry for the sport, offering better and more safety-checked bikes to newbies than what’s on Craig’s, helping reduce waste by recycling decent parts, providing a convenient place for services and consumables, and keeping a stock of awesome odds and ends pulled off other bikes which become impulse buys for me 🙂 I wish more shops would adopt this model.

chasejj
chasejj
9 years ago

After working in bike shops for all my college years and frequenting them less and less since. I have a few observations.

Selling major brands in stock to noobies and those inclined to buy them is a big chunk of valid profit as well as clothing and accessories.

But quality full service is where the money will be made from the real enthusiasts. The only reason for me to ever go into a shop (I’m a high end user and beat up equipment) is for services I either don’t have time to perform or cannot, due to the specialty nature of the work.
For example- If I bring a shock to a shop for rebuild and service they are happy to take it and charge me to send it to another offsite service facility. This is a horrible business model. Shops need to be suspension service centers that have the tools and expertise to perform almost all repairs onsite.
I can send my suspension to any number of offsite shops myself very easily.
If I need a high end part , why would I ever bother coming to a shop to order it wen I can order it in literally seconds sometimes by using my iPhone and Paypal? It can be on my door in 2 days!
But if I blow a shock or wheel and need it fixed in short timeframe , I need a shop nearby who I can trust to fix it. All the noobies will still come in to have their tuneups and baskets installed.

crybaby
crybaby
9 years ago

I’ve experienced a shop owner like “over it.” Personally offended by everything and everybody who don’t buy from them. Personal attacks of customers they know bought something online after they leave the store, all the while crying poverty 24/7.

I’ve watched their business decline due to the shop owners poor attitude, and I must say it couldn’t happen to a better shop.

bearCol
bearCol
9 years ago

The root of the problem is shops can’t match online pricing. Since Atomic is cutting out the whole sale middle man as mac mentioned already, why not completely cut out whole sale so shops can be competitive?

This may not work as well as it sounds because even whole sale pricing isn’t that great, and volume purchasing wouldn’t be factored in. I used to place personal orders through BTI, and group orders through QBP but even with access to whole sale I often found equal or better pricing online. The industry is constantly closing out stuff/changing stuff….. so how is a shop ever going to be able keep up? It’s not the riders responsibility to keep shops open when the industry doesn’t seem to care about what happens on the retail end. In many markets care is taken to not flood the market with closeouts, last years stuff… to maintain a sustainable balance between manufacturing and retail. Clearly the bike industry doesn’t give a rip about what happens on the retail side.

The idea that the end consumer needs to do their part to keep retail viable is ridiculous. The bike industry could make shops thrive if that was a goal. For all you LBS evangelists, stop blaming riders and start blaming the industry.

Ron
Ron
9 years ago

Atomik has only 30 dealers from looking on their website, and the closest one is over 6 hours away from me. Hopefully they still would ship to me in my case, right? No way I am driving across the state to pick up 2 rims.

Comments are all over the place, so here is my loose change… I see the industry purchases going in two different directions based on my buying habits and riding friends around me:

1. Online for the younger generation and/or the very bike-educated type of person. They know what they want, know what size they need based on forum interactions and know how to build/work on their own stuff. They read forums, and like to shop on price, customization and convenience. They may want a less “mainstream” brand. I would say that I – – and most that read this fall into this category.

2. Those who like to shop retail and are fine owning a Specialized, Giant, Cannondale etc. where these brands are only sold in bike shops or like a personal touch. They have no problem taking a long lunch to go down to the local shop that sells that XYZ brand. Need help with bike fit, and want to ride before buying. They have a relationship and connection to a bike shop because local shop is an advocates in the community and you want to support them. I have a friend that will go to a shop on his lunch and drop $2000 on a new bike every 6 months because he is impulsive and can have it immediately if it is in stock. He never goes on mtbr, bikerumor, etc..

None is better than the other, just different ways to buy a bike based on personality type. Personally, if I was a bike shop owner I would focus on bikes maybe my parents in their 60’s would want to buy, or anything that doesn’t have a model year associated with it so it doesn’t have to be devalued at the end of the season. Also focus on full service and wear related items.

corvcycleguy
corvcycleguy
9 years ago

Pretty sure no one understand what this article just said. It’s pretty apparent that because of our instant gratification to have what we want for the price we want and when we want era that we have taken the customer service out of the LBS. And with the customer service gone so is our desired parts and quality/quantity. Just my opinion. But hey what’s a guy who’s worked in the bike industry for the last 10 years know about this. A final note, much of the industry has seen what the Jenson’s, pricepoint’s, chain reaction cycles, and competitive cyclist have done to the prices of goods. And much of the industry is doing what it can to begin eliminating them from the market. They are no longer allowing them to sell their products unless they hold to the dealer contracts they sign. It’s not going to change over night but it’s begun.

Wellthen
Wellthen
9 years ago

In 2015 when the term ‘online sales’ is used, the underlying piece is DATA. It’s easier for IBD’s to get upset about ‘losing customers to the web’ because most have missed the fact that online retailers know their supposed loyal customers better than they do.

A shop that has maybe a limited Facebook presence and no interest in tracking shopper habits, etc, had better come to terms with the new way, as it’s not a trend. I’ve heard too many shops cry that Amazon (for example) is in the ‘shop killing’ business. Ah, not quite – they mine data, through which they move product.

If you’re a shop for who thinks consumer direct is a passing a fade, it’s already too late.

Adam Simpson
Adam Simpson
9 years ago

Good for Atomic. Support the LBS side of the industry and cycling community. Send people to bike shops.
To all the experts that don’t need bike shops, maybe you should stop complaining about them and just go ride your bikes. You always want something obscure or exotic and are eternally disappointed that the local shop won’t stock it and if they special order it, it’s too expensive. You never have a good shopping experience, regardless of where you shop, and you are surprised by this every single time. You are in the minority of customers and bike shops are not meant for you. Go and learn about the realities of retail economics before you set foot in another shop.

What’s funny is that the almost-high-end enthusiast* occupies 95% of the space in the internet cycling universe yet constitutes 5% of the bike industry in terms of sales. You’re like bad music: You make the most noise but contribute the least pleasure.

Time to move on to the next article on Bikerumor and complain about an innovation that is stupid or pointless or will never work in the real world

*actual high-end enthusiasts don’t complain about prices. They find what they like and they buy it.

What?
What?
9 years ago

Wow, so much hate for LBS’s. If you do not like LBS’s and Atomik chooses to like LBS’s, it is simple, don’t buy their products.

In fact stay completely stay out of LBS’s and do them a favor, the reason you get treated like crap at every LBS you go to or they all suck so bad, IS YOU. What is the only common denominator, YOU!

haromania
haromania
9 years ago

Cyclist’s by and large want the bro deal on everything, it’s tiresome.

I get a kick out of people who have never owned a profitable business, tell those of us who do it successfully, how it should be done.

People like to claim they understand it takes money to operate a business, but when it comes to separate their money from them, they revert back to their clueless and often unrealistic expectations.

Ol' Shel'
Ol' Shel'
9 years ago

Two more points:

People complain about the quality of bike shop workers, but don’t want to spend enough to allow shops to make these positions into careers, rather than dead-end positions for teens and shop rats.

When you avoid sales tax by ordering from out of state, you’re breaking the law by not declaring that on your tax return. You’re still required to pay the tax. Take pride in that…I guess. (what was I saying about selfishness?)

bearCol
bearCol
9 years ago

Ol Shei:

So riders should pay more so shop employees can have a career? Bike shops are just retail outlets like any retail outlet. There’s a reason the pay is the same whether you work at the Gap, or a bike shop. I made 10 an hr doing sales which is typical for retail sales. I never felt like I should be able to make a career out of it. Bike shop jobs are high school level jobs and the pay is appropriate for the skills required. People pay silly high retail prices for jeans but the sales person that sold those jeans is probably making 10 an hr which is fair pay for the job. Feel free to pay retail to help the stoner at your LBS make a career out of retail if you want. It won’t matter.

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