EB15: Evil Rises Up with 27.5″ Wheeled Insurgent

That is easy on the eyes…soothing actually.

I can’t look away.

26″ hardtail model will be called the suicide bomber

if i had a wallet

Cool-looking bikes, but those pivot bolts look darn small. Shame about no Boost, too. But awesome on the 73mm bb.

@tim- no bolt worries. a friend has been abusing his uprising from its debut til now on multiple trips at angel fire, bootleg and snowshoe without a peep. amazing bikes

Great company just a truly poor choice in name!!!

@Mr. P- Unfortunately, I don’t have much time for riding these days, but the bikes I rode most heavily back in the day had 68mm or 73mm threaded bottom brackets. Bearing replacements occurred once in a blue moon. Squeaks and creaking originating from the bearing-frame interface were a non-issue. I also worked as a shop mechanic, and I rarely saw anyone replace the bearings on their threaded bottom brackets, except if they were using crummy small diameter ISIS ones. Meanwhile, press-fit bottom brackets of all stripes routinely suffer from squeaks. People complain about them all the time. There’s ‘potential’ for squeaking (and much louder creaking) in every frame-bearing interface. That ‘potential’ happens to be much higher on frames with press-fit bottom brackets. Every time a person buys a bike, they’re making a wager on that bike’s reliability. If I’m laying down 5K or so for a bike, that’s a very big wager; I’d like my ‘potential’ of getting a creaking frame to be as close to zero as possible for that kind of money. But yes, press-fit bottom brackets are stiffer. But the reliability issue is a big one.
Another old thing that’s become new again that sucks: internal cabling. It won’t stop me from buying a bike, but it’s definitely a minus, and one that came about because of a preference for looks over ease of use and maintenance.

@Mr. P
The lateral frame stiffness thing has been grossly exaggerated by companies hoping to cut costs and sell it as “better”

Santa Cruz uses threaded BBs on all their mountain bikes, and those are about the stiffest frames made. YT is using pressfits, and according to the numbers-obsessed germans, those are some of the flexiest frames around (not necessarily a bad thing, but a thing).

MTBs generally require a bb replacement every year for your average rider, or more often if you’re aggressive/racing. That sucks if it’s pressfit, especially if the tolerances were sloppy to begin with. You soon find yourself needing custom sleeves to get the cups to sit true, otherwise they creak and creep constantly.

Pressfit has no place on a mountain bike.

@Tim

17mm main pivot with a thru shaft pivot and every bearing int eh bike is a dual row angular contact with a custom fastener specifically sized for that pivot. So in short, they are “really f’ing strong”

@pressfit BB guys

agreed on all points. Thread in is simple, re-usable, robust, cost-effective, and the stiffness change is minimal if anything. It’s a non factor in overall frame stiffness of a mountain bike for the most part. Maybe that’s different for a 700g road bike, but these DH bikes masquerading as trail bikes are so strong already, it just doesn’t matter.