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GCN, or the Global Cycling Network is quickly becoming one of the go-to sources for cycling related videos, especially since they get access to bikes like Peter Sagan’s new Specialized. After moving from Cannondale to the Tinkoff Saxo team this year, Sagan traded in his Super Six Evo for a Specialized S-Works Venge. Along with the change in frame comes almost a complete changed in components. Check out the full video from GCN after the break…

Apparently we also need to send out a Happy Birthday to Mr. Sagan, as he turns 25 today!

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Rico
Rico
8 years ago

Can’t wait to see that wireless electronic FSA groupset on these Tinkoff and the QuickStep bikes. I wonder of Cannondale will use it as well.

Greg
Greg
8 years ago

No discs no thanks

rob c
rob c
8 years ago

Trading Super six evo for s-w venge =yikes!

I’ve ridden both extensively, before you ask….

AlanM
AlanM
8 years ago

c, care to shed a little more light on your review?

jdog
jdog
8 years ago

Money Talks. is sounds like this: ssssssssssssssssssssss

Matt
Matt
8 years ago

I have a supersix and it is the best bike I have ridden to date (had giant, tarmac and trek). Great power transfer feeling, but the bike rides great and does not beat you up on longer rides.

I still think the Tarmac is a really nice bike.

80
80
8 years ago

Every time I see that name “Venge” – I think this;

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv6sikamLS1qa0q13o1_500.jpg

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
8 years ago

The Venge rides like crap. Perfect if the road is perfect so it would probably make a great track bike with the right dropouts. Even the Tarmac has a pretty crap ride compared to most brand’s all arounders, the Venge is 10x worse. Hopefully they’ll fix that in the next generation of their bikes. There is no way to soften the ride either since there’s little space for chunky tires. I’ve always felt that it looked cool but I’d never want to ride on variable road surfaces. Anyone that says the Venge and Tarmac ride great have probably not ridden many different bikes

***I have worked for a Specialized dealer, have ridden everything(own a Shiv TT) and really think the Roubaix is a spectacular machine so I’m not exactly Anti-Specialized

Trenton South
Trenton South
8 years ago

The venge is a solid ride, I am stoked to see peter kill it this year. With proper teammates to push him and a super stiff/aero bike as the venge, he will destroy the peloton this year.

The venge isn’t supposed to be compliant, it’s a aero shredding race bike. You want a Cadillac, buy a Roubaix.

Matt
Matt
8 years ago

The bike that I have been hearing is really nice is the Domane by Trek. Supposedly stiff enough for all the fast group rides, but just a really nice road feel to it.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
8 years ago

The Domane is definitely stiff enough at the BB. However, I feel an ever so slight bob from the decoupler(surely loses energy…look at YOUTUBE for people riding the Domane on a trainer). I’m thinking a lot of the tour riders don’t notice because they’re all under 160lbs with the exception of Rast( and Cancellara. Its worth it if you’re riding crappy roads all the time but I wouldn’t want to ride it as a bigger rider if you’ve got great streets, if you’re light, you probably will only get the pros and none of the cons.

Kyle
8 years ago

This bike makes me want to ride my cyclocross bike, and look at pictures of bikes made of metal.

Von Kruiser
Von Kruiser
8 years ago

Heard it will be another year before the FSA group is ready but they had to pay for a two year contact. FSA is buying Shimano groups for this year to fulfill the contract. Not sure if it is true though.

Nathan
Nathan
8 years ago

Veganpotter: How does the force of your butt hitting a seat get transferred to the pedals on a bike? That’s the only force that could be lost. Just because something is moving doesn’t mean it’s taking energy from your pedaling.

LawyerKnowItAll
LawyerKnowItAll
8 years ago

Matt and Rob,

The venge is a very harsh ride. They are very stiff and are hammer machines, but unless the road is perfect pavement, it is a shit bike to ride. The cannondale rides nicer, but they are very, very prone to cracks and damages at the top tube/head tube junction. I have seen quite a few break. They sacrificed a lot of strength to get to the weights they wanted.

The madone and bmc slr01 are two of the best riding bikes on the the market. The BMC could be the nicest riding carbon bike ever.

None of those bikes compares to a nice custom titanium whip!

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
8 years ago

Nathan…when your body weight goes down into the pedals, the seat goes with it. That’s gotta be removing some downward force. If that isn’t true…it still feels like you’re running 15-20 PSI too low

Rico
Rico
8 years ago

FSA elec group will be out by TDF 😉

Kyle
Kyle
8 years ago

Discussion about a pro racer’s sprint beast turns into comfort bike talk. Go figure.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
8 years ago

Kyle, plenty of people don’t like the bike which is why tons of very fast pros ride the Tarmac instead and plenty of pros are riding the aero Cervelo S3 and S5, even if they aren’t actually sprinters. A sprinter’s bike doesn’t have to ride like crap, a Giant Propel has a decent ride, Felt AR, Cervelo S5, the new Fuji(only one I’ve named that I haven’t ridden) is supposed to ride great. This bike is old tech(even if its still great in the tunnel). Everyone has pretty aero bikes now but they’ve been making them have a nicer ride on top of being aero and stiff…this is only aero and not even the most aero but is the worst riding

***Sagan is a guy that was winning on an obviously non-aero frame but a frame with a pretty good ride quality for being so stiff. This bike is less stiff and rides way worse than a SuperSix

ButWhatDoIKnow
ButWhatDoIKnow
8 years ago

Veganpotter is correct. An aero bike can be made fairly compliant if designed correctly. My Felt AR feels great even on longer rides on less than ideal pavement. Although I haven’t tried out a Venge, I see so many of them for sale, used, on the FB page Online Swap Meet, I have to wonder. It’s pretty crazy…

Kyle
Kyle
8 years ago

So… Peter Sagan doesn’t know that he’s riding the wrong bike?

pilf
pilf
8 years ago

@Kyle – No, Peter Sagan is happy to have the giant check that Specialized cuts him to ride one.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
8 years ago

Correct pilf. No idea how much Cannondale was paying but Specialized could lose the complete net worth of Cannondale and be fine.

Chris
Chris
8 years ago

Holy arm-chair-engineering-quarterbacking batman! You guys should all start your own bicycle manufacturing businesses with critiques like these! Better yet, go apply for jobs at Cannondale and Specialized! They are always looking for great talent to develop the next best bike!

Whoston
Whoston
8 years ago

Man, what a bunch of ninnies! The Venge rides great… I have one and have ridden many other aero bikes. The main reason I picked the Venge over some other brands is because it could handle 25mm tires for better compliance in training. Put 25’s and air them up to 80 PSI and you are golden. Switch them with race wheels, and then you are set to race. Voila.

Read the science. All this talk of frame “stiffness” is equivalent to 4 PSI of tire pressure.

http://www.slowtwitch.com/Tech/Thoughts_on_science_perception_4571.html

Kyle
Kyle
8 years ago

He’s paid to win on a Specialized. He’ll race a Venge mostly and he’ll race a Tarmac and Roubaix(TM) where needed. The Venge is a bike made for a niche rider and Sagan sits well inside of that niche. I’m pretty sure he won’t find himself yearning for a classics bike in the middle of a sprint stage because the roads aren’t perfectly smooth.

Rob C
Rob C
8 years ago

Venge is 1st generation aero bike, and is old tech; compared to 2nd generation aero bikes it feels very crude. Surely Specialized are due to update the design for 2016?

I found the Venge uncomfortable to ride (I owned a Tarmac SL4 at the time) with poor steering precision (floppy), like a bike of 2 halves with an overly stiff rear causing wheel to skip unless on smoothest roads, and a floppy front end causing vague steering when changing lane or entering fast corners. Even when sprinting the frame does not feel as one, but like the head tube is trying to twist under power.

The Tarmac felt like a much more balanced ride in terms of power transfer, comfort and steering / handling. The SL4 was a big improvement on the SL2 I had before, which was just a bruiser on rough ground, and heavy too.

However, the Super Six Evo was another level compared to the SL4. I’ve also spent time on the new Tarmac (what would have been SL5) and its a subtle improvement compared to the SL4, but still not close to the Super Six Evo.

I’ve also ridden the Giant Propel which was incredibly impressive in terms of being a very balanced ride, with great handling, that did not beat the cr*p out of the rider, and a fast bike too.

I currently own a Giant Defy Advanced Pro (2015) which is a stunning ride, truly a race-like bike in an endurance package. Would be interested to try the Synapse Disc for comparison.

Tiago
Tiago
8 years ago

Granted The number of bikes I have spent longer periods of time is somewhat limited but I have never found the Venge to be uncomfortable. It was my first road bike coming from a mountain bike (specialized carve). The only times I had issues were on paved roads that were painful even on the mountain bike. I put about 4500 miles on it this first year, including 4 centuries, the highlight being a 107 mile ride where we averaged 22mph. I have been on a lower end Tarmac and also a Giant TCR but probably not enough time to distinguish differences in Comfort. When shopping for my venge every store I went to I would hear the same thing, “venge is uncomfortable”, and they would try to direct me to a different bike. I’m glad I never listened as I don’t think I would have enjoyed any of the other bikes as much and have never noticed the claimed discomfort/harsh ride qualities I heard so much about.

That said, Once the weather gets nicer and my Dad can ride his new Tarmac I might take his old roubaix for a spin just for comparison to see if there really is a large difference in comfort from a Venge to other “comfort” bikes.

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