images courtesy of Pinarello

Working together with the suspension techs at HiRide, Pinarello has revamped the tiny suspension damper in their Dogma K8-S Classics race bike bringing electronically controlled hydraulic damping to the bikes that Team Sky will race at Paris-Roubaix this coming weekend. The version 2.0 damper update is said to greatly boost the performance of the lightweight road suspensions system, both in the move away from the prior elastomer damper and of course in the automatically locking out of travel on the fly – for zero power loss on the smooth sections of road in between the race’s notoriously brutal pavé sectors, then fully opening the 10mm of travel of the K8-S when the riders hit the cobbles again…

 

Two years after launching the rear suspended road racer, Pinarello are back on the cobblestones with a new electronic Dogma Suspension System (eDSS) that takes advantage of the flexible carbon chainstays to isolate the racer from some of the rough vibrations and impacts that are completely unavoidable when racing at high-speed in a pack over the rough cobblestones of northern France and Belgium.

courtesy of Team Sky, photo by Russ Ellis of Cycling Images

The setup has been fitted to Team Sky’s existing Dogma K8-S race bikes and already race tested this week at Scheldeprijs in Belgium by Ian Stannard.

The priority of the new suspension project was of course giving the Team Sky racers the best of both worlds – locked out or fully open suspension – without the need to think about it. So the eDSS 2.0 automatically manages the lock out based on sensor input of the impacts transmitted through the frame. To make it work Pinarello has incorporated a system of 6-axis accelerometers and gyroscopes into the frame that detect the terrain type and adapt suspension character, all in a matter of a few milliseconds.

While the tech has just recently been finalized, Pinarello says it will be made available to buyers of the Dogma K8-S and K8-S Disc in the very near future. In the words of Fausto Pinarello “I am very happy with this new and ambitious project… The introduction of an electro-hydraulic control system establishes an important step forward in the technological evolution of our bikes, improving performance and increasing safety.”

Pinarello.com

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myke2241
myke2241
4 years ago

As history will show, fail!

Fritz
Fritz
4 years ago

This Bianchi full suspension gravel racer from the past (1912) is the future http://www.sterba-bike.cz/media/produkty/1328/DSC_7259.jpg

Johnny
Johnny
4 years ago

Is that the battery for the motor?

Rich W.
Rich W.
4 years ago

I appreciate technology and innovation (I have a disc brake road bike!!!), but this seems like overkill for 10mm (but probably closer to 5mm in the real world) of travel.

TheKaiser
4 years ago
Reply to  Rich W.

^^Yeah, what Rich says!^^

frogg
frogg
4 years ago
Reply to  Rich W.

It’s called the MTBification of road bikes

Comrad
Comrad
4 years ago

But y tho

Isaac
4 years ago

As the French would say “Le yuck”

frogg
frogg
4 years ago
Reply to  Isaac

this system was in fact pioneered by a French bike mfgr Lapierre in 2013 on MTBs; now it’s nth iteration and called E iShock http://www.lapierre-bikes.co.uk/ei-shock-auto-revolution-shock (link is external)

will
will
4 years ago
Reply to  frogg

K2 was making “smart shocks” way, way before that even. Certainly not a new idea.

Jami
Jami
4 years ago

The article doesn’t tell the full story. The writeup from bikeradar gives a bit more details and pictures of the control system and routing,

http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/automatic-rear-suspension-system-race-tested-by-team-sky-49570/

Nate
Nate
4 years ago

“It’s not a toomah!” Said Arnold.

Dave
Dave
4 years ago

I predict a Sky podium sweep.

zigak
4 years ago
Reply to  Dave

🙂

ascarlarkinyar
4 years ago

Suspension gravel bikes….. yet another new must have (not) category.

WG
WG
4 years ago

Looking forward to seeing the first pile-up and this little thingy (battery? controller? reservoir?) being torn off the damper’s base!

EXODUX
4 years ago
Reply to  WG

In that pileup, some rider gets his fingers caught between the shock and the sensor and gets a brutal injury, cries to the UCI, who then bans suspension from road bikes in any UCI race.

Crusty Dungbunker
Crusty Dungbunker
4 years ago

Looks like the ‘shock reservoir’ on every department store BSO ever

Crusty Dungbunker
Crusty Dungbunker
4 years ago

DSS = Dog S*%t Suspension

rydermann67
4 years ago

Wow! Lot’s of venom in these comments…

zigak
4 years ago
Reply to  rydermann67

4chan?

Carl
Carl
4 years ago

Seems silly, but for a team that is all about the “marginal gains”, if they’re going to be using this system it’s only smart to figure out how to disable it when not needed. It’s all but identical to the Moots YBB, and I’m sure it makes a difference.

RED
RED
4 years ago

Roger De Vlaeminck would be turning over in his grave. If he was dead…

Mac
Mac
4 years ago
Reply to  RED

LOL

silverlining
silverlining
4 years ago

Well, it’s been a while since we’ve had an e-bike review……

Teal is Real
Teal is Real
4 years ago

Dingle-
Berry

Adrian
Adrian
4 years ago

Clearly the comments are from folks lack innovation in their daily life but are happy to buy when all is said and done!

ELEVEN_g
4 years ago

Here’s the thing to all the nay sayers (and I don’t give a flick either way)… This is a pro team, a good one too (growing scandals aside). In this team are pro riders. That bit again, PRO riders. So these are guys that race bikes for MONEY… their living to be precise.

What’s my point? Well, if they are giving it a go, for whatever marginal gains it might give them, then there’s apparently some merit to it.

So, unless you too put it where it is to earn your crust on the back of two wheel, you don’t have to like it, ride it or even look at it; ideally, your opinion on this is probably, well, pointless.

Alivis
Alivis
4 years ago
Reply to  ELEVEN_g

Marginal gains totally discredited. Pro riders paid to ride what they are paid to, not a validation of a product or ‘innovations’ worth. Apart from that, spot on.

ELEVEN_g
4 years ago
Reply to  Alivis

Yes and no. There are still riders (a decreasing amount I would guess these days with carbon bikes having a harder to replicate aesthetic) that ride frames from other makers ‘rebranded’ in their official colours – because they don’t like what they have been offered. I also don’t buy into this argument 100% (more like 80%), simply because if something is not going to do the job to a baseline, they will not use it; their salary and net worth to a team is based on performance, so if it’s going to slow them down in some way, they are not going to use it.

sebo2000
sebo2000
3 years ago

nothing beats domane, simple yet super comfortable solution