Thok E-Bikes debuts with Limited Edition Tony Bou MIG E-MTB

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Ding Ding Ding. The “these bikes are for the disabled” is a facade. If these bikes were really just for the disabled their would be about 3 companies selling them.

Motor=motorbike. I don’t care how little it kicks in. Ride it on motorized trails please or you will be playing a role in potential trail access issues. Other user groups don’t care a thing about how the motor works, all they know is there is a motor. It’s hard to tell the difference when you know little about bikes and that’s probably the biggest problem. Even bike geeks could mistake a gearbox bike with an e-bike.

And I do get your handicap point. It’s a good one and shows that the bike industry is really just using that as a form of justifying putting motors on mountain bikes.

Maybe not Moab but I guarantee you the Monarch Crest trail will see its share of ebikes.

Hey Stampers, I just did some research and mopeds have been banned from ALL NATIONAL FOREST AND BLM TRAILS that don’t already allow form motorized use!. There’s also stipulations regarding medical issues. No dice.

Here’s an excerpt on federal policy and medical moped use:

Disability and Motorized Devices
Questions have been raised in relation to people with disabilities requesting use of e-bikes as an
assistive device. The only exception for a person with a disability for use of a device that is selfpropelled
is if that device meets both parts of the legal definition of a wheelchair or mobility
device as defined above in 36 CFR 212.1 and also defined the same way in FSM 2353.05 and in
42 U.S.C. 12107. Under that definition any device that is both designed solely for mobility for a
person with disability and which is suitable for use on an indoor pedestrian may be used
anywhere foot travel is allowed. E-bikes were not solely designed for individuals who have
mobility impairments and their suitability for indoor use would be highly questionable.
Therefore they don’t qualify for an exception and may only be used where the MVUM allows
that use by all people. An e-bike remains a motor vehicle regardless of who is using it. It is
essential that exceptions not be made to the TMR designations. Restrictions on motor vehicle use
that are applied consistently to everyone have been repeatedly found not to be discriminatory.

Motorcycles are too loud for trails, people and horses… Good for tracks.

@stampers. Can you ride your mountain moped at higher average speeds and cover more miles vs a real MTB? Then it does more damage. Simple math. You might be correct that mile per mile at the same speed it is the same as MTB for trail erosion etc, but that’s not why these things are being marketed is it? They aren’t saying, “Buy this bike with a motor and ride exactly the same as you did before.” They are saying, “Ride more trails, faster and easier, than you did before.”

Either these things are faster and cover more ground than MTB thus causing more damage. Or, they are the same as MTB speed and don’t allow the user to go father for the same time/effort and the damage is equal like you claim. But then if this is true, there is no reason to even buy one defeating the purpose. So which is it?

Can’t have your cake and eat it too.