What is A.R.T.? In this case, it’s the beautiful new All Road Titanium bike from Turner. Fitting somewhere between the original alloy Cyclosys purebred cyclocross bike and a gravel crusher, Turner prefers the term ‘All Road’ when referring to this bike.
Update: Despite this frame saying Cyclosys on the seat tube, it is in fact a distinct model from Turner Bikes now that there’s a new Cyclosys ti gravel bike that’s designed for the latest gravel tire sizes and riding styles. This A.R.Ti is something Dave told us he’d actually like to retire, but people keep trying to order them…so, despite being shown as unavailable on his website, it might be worth an email. Or a look at the new Cyclosys.
That’s because it’s equally at home rolling on 700 x 28mm slicks, 32-35mm CX knobbies, or up to 38mm gravel tires. While it won’t fit the biggest gravel tires out there, the trade-off is that switching to road slicks won’t affect the ride height as much. Because of that, it remains a bit more versatile.
Built around ‘all road’ forks from ENVE and Whisky with shorter 382/383mm axle to crown measurements, the forks offer similar 700 x 38mm tire clearance.
Details like the ‘mud cutter’ chainstay bridge are meant to help with mud shedding, and the frame features a shapely seat tube where it joins the T47 threaded bottom bracket for improved stiffness – without being too stiff.
Elsewhere, the 3/2.5 titanium frame with custom butted tubing sneaks in details like a minimalist 140mm flat mount for the rear brake, and internal cable routing with bolt on cable ports.
Compatible with 2x or 1x build kits, the ART will be sold in three different builds – SRAM Apex 1×11, SRAM Force 1×11, or Shimano Ultegra 2×11. It will also be available as a frame set with a Whisky or ENVE fork. Turner is taking pre-orders for the ART now, with pricing starting at $2,500 for frameset or $4,205 for complete bikes with plenty of options for upgrades.
Cool, I really like this bike! the geometry is just the kind of thing I go for, not too slack, very nice. Is it US made or asian? It has a 140 specific setup on the rear – can you therefore not put a 160 rotor on the back?
Made in Far East, although Turner don’t say by whom exactly.
I want to know the name of the guy who made the mining equipment all the metals to make this Ti alloy were mined with, and the parents of that guy/gal why we are at it.
And why should they?
Both brake companies make adapters for 160 rotors on 140 mounts.
Yes, made in Asia, the factory does great work including butting Ti.
Yes, $2,500 for frame and carbon fork
That’s right suckers… DT himself is responding to your comments. Also, Turner Bikes are responsible for backing up whom ever makes his frames to his specifications… why would he be obligated to share who makes his frames. It’s best business practices to not share who manufacturers your frames/parts with your competitors.
I’m actually most interested in Option ‘C,’ made in Italy.
Hi Mr Turner. Can you explain why there is so little transparency about who makes what in the bike industry? Outside of the Pivot guys who will talk openly about their working with Genio I can’t think of any brands that actually discuss their manufacturning partners in public. Is it simply ‘not the done thing’ or is there a more practical reason for it? It’s always something that has struck me as an odd thing to be opaque about, particularly when dealing with high end products.
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Thanks for your time.
Do you expect Audi to tell you who makes various parts for them? Or Husqvarna? Or Apple? Or Nike?
Mr. JNH, please provide an example of another industry where it is the norm or even remotely common for a brand to offer up supply chain and manufacturing transparency?
The VW spares spark plugs I fitted to my car last week said MADE IN JAPAN NGK on them, so yes, I do actually. VW group publishes a list of it’s manufacturing partners, so they don’t think it’s an unreasonable question either.
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It’s tempting to be glib and say all of them, but I’ll elaborate. When I go to the store to buy food the meat has the country and farm of origin on the packet. All pre-packaged food does if you look. My Samsung phone has parts from Corning, Qualcomm, Foxconn and SK Hynix in it. The information is all there if you want to know.
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I make glasses for a living. All the lenses and frames have manufacturer codes that say where they were made and who by. So a Gucci frame might have been made by Luxottica in Italy, whilst Nike are from Marchon in Germany. The lenses go as far back as date of manufacture and even who signed off the quality assurance. People care enough to ask me about this on a regular basis and I tell them, because it’s not unreasonable to ask where the things you are paying money for came from.
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Before I made glasses I worked for a manufacturer of medical implants. They didn’t just know where your screw in false tooth was made, they knew which hole in Russia the Titanium was dug out of and the name of the guy in Italy who made the mould for the ceramic crown.
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Cycling really stands out as an industry where everyone gets all Secret Squirrel about where things come from. I see it as counter productive, it’s all well and good proclaiming the quality of a factory but if nobody is allowed to see it it’s just words. On that note my bike was made by a nice guy called Matt who hails from Colorado, he made me a really nice bike, even sent me work in progress photos.
The seat tube graphic needs a bit of a revision, i think….
Otherwise, a very tidy bike!
The pictures doesn’t do the bike/ frame justice. It is a beautiful bike in person. Having owned a few Ti bikes in the past, I believe titanium is the ultimate frame material for cross/ gravel.
I’d buy this in a heartbeat, if I hadn’t already thrown down for a gravel bike last fall.
Rock on, DT!
Love my aluminum Cyclosys, this is slightly lower and longer — and Ti — Nice!!!
Beautiful bike but I’m Waiting for the real Gravel model from Turner
Want!!
this is a beauty, nicely done DT.
Awesome deal and the frameset looks great. Really wish it had fender mounts for those of us who live in the rainy places.
Have to agree (also rack mounts would be nice for versatility). This is the downside of Turner Bikes being based in the Inland Empire. Hopefully, you guys will be at Sea Otter. I’d certainly like to throw a leg over one and see how the ride compares to my Lynskey R265 and my Cyclosis.
Dave,
Very interested, but I second braze-ons for bay area versatility.
Why are some people so upset that consumers want to know where their bike is made? Certainly, there is some value in certain manufactures track records. Is anyone willing to argue that they would prefer a ti frame made in China as compared to one by Moots or Seven?
This frame is made by lynskey for carver and the exact replica of the discontinued ubano or ubanisky other than the sliding dropouts it’s the same frame I’ve had my lynskey ubano frame for years and it’s amazing best bike I’ve ever owned… h
As someone who rides 2/3 road and 1/3 gravel I welcome the addition of the “All-Road” bike to the party. A year ago I bought a Litespeed All-Road bike and absolutely love it. If I had known about the ARTi when I was looking I would have considered it.