So we knew this was coming, though technically until now it has all been speculation. Niner just confirmed that x01 is coming, and they will have spec on the RIP 9, AIR 9, JET 9, and SIR 9 soon. As you probably can imagine, a less expensive version of one of the most influential mountain bike groups to date is going to be very popular. Niner suggests getting your orders in now for maybe a fall release?
No pictures yet, but links to Niner’s specs after the break.
I rented a bike for Tamaracho flow, came equipped With Sram hydro brakes. They squealed so much that I stopped a few times and checked to see if they had installed the pads backwards or the pad spreaders were on the inside or something. At least reading this I can see that is the way they “Work”
I might get burned for what I’m about to write, but I’ve found the FCS barrel to be the culprit of the sudden failures of the Elixir line. I’ve owned several Avid models (Juicy 3s, 7s, Elixirs 5s and CRs) and a couple of Shimano ones (575 and Deore). I have nothing but good things to say about the Juicys and the Elixir 5s. However, the CRs drove me nuts. Seemed like they couldn’t stay solid for more than a week after each bled… Crossing opinios with my ride mates, everyone who had a set of FCS-equipped Elixirs suffered from the same woes.
Now when it comes to long descents, Avids clearly overpower Shimanos in my humble opinion. I almost fell down a cliff once when I grabbed the Deores with all my strength and found the levers would just hit the grips and the bike kept accelerating… I’d choose DOT brake fuild over mineral oil any day of the week.
@john
even avid admits that their squealing is a harmonics issue with their pad mated to their rotor on certain frames and forks (read: most). and no amount of bedding in and alignment is going to fix the fact that their reservoir bladder material and hose material simply allowed too much atmospheric moisture to get pulled through, increasing fluid volume, then requiring some fluid to be bled out before pads could be reset. their reservoirs imo have too little volume. and what about having so much assembly grease inside the master cylinder that it clogs its own ports? or bleeding out a new brake (because the factory bleed was sh1t) only to find black seal pieces floating in there?
truth is their products tend to fall short. some parts have the beginnings of a good idea, maybe 3/4 of the way there, but fail in other ways. they simply dont want it bad enough. they dont want to be “the best”.
I like my XO Trails. And I think offering 1×11 at a lower price point is awesome for those interested. It’s really great to have more than one MTB drivetrain to choose from.
Regardless, how did a drivetrain topic get railroaded by people with brake issues? Oh, I know. As is common among forums everywhere and for everything, people do the easy thing and complain rather than having constructive dialogue. Thanks for meeting expectations forum people.
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“one of the most influential mountain bike groups ever.”
That’s a big call. A very big call.
So, jam another cog in there (and charge a bomb for it) and tell every one running 1×11 is the future is influential… even though people have been running 1x set ups (1×9, 1×10) for ages?
Never knew it was THAT easy.
XX1 gets most influential IMO, wicked pricey but awesome. Ditch the chain guards, front shifter, deraileur… awesome. Absolutely love mine.
For mortals though the 32 front ring they ship with is silly, send with a 28 and you are covered. 28×10 offers plenty of speed. Front derailleurs are what suck.
In a few years only shimano brake lovers will run 2×10. 🙂
don
Gee! All those people thinking there is some value in liquid/internet democracy, should have a close look at BR comment box! The first four comments were actually good fun/irony … but then it took off all to quickly. It´s not about the brakes!!?
BTW: I read somewhere else the new X01 cassette will feature X-Dome technology as well, can anyone confirm? I fear, if so, the money saving won´t be as much as everybody is hoping for…
If you need a 28t as standard you probably need to lose something else and it sure as hell ain’t on the bike! The 32t gives a huge range and I’d run out a 28t in seconds, I’m not exactly a sponsored enduro rider either. Glad to see this is filtering down though, but I hope shimano are going to respond a) because I prefer shimano to SRAM and b) because they’re gonna lose a huge market share if they don’t and this appeals to such a huge market I’m not sure they can afford to look past it. They need something to compete and fast!!
Have one bike with XT hydros and another with Juicy 5’s. The Shimano’s are nicer in almost every way (lever feel, power, modulation and adjustment) but they don’t work well below -10 C and not at all below -20 C. They also cost more than double what the Juicy’s went for.
The Juicy’s stop my bike, even at 7:00 AM on a busy street in -20 C weather. They have required very little maintenance in 5 years of every day winter commuting except for pad changes and being bled occasionally (once a season). The DOT 4 brake fluid is a pain to use, but it is dirt cheap and you can get it anywhere. As an added bonus it doesn’t freeze.
Why all the hate for Avid brakes? They have kept me from sliding under many a bus and have got me through a couple races too. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another set based on that alone.
