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IB13: Greg Lemond Is Back! New Lemond – Time Bikes Coming, ANT+ Revolution Trainers, More

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Greg Lemond recently announced that he would be getting back into bikes and that Time would be the manufacturer. What we didn’t see coming was that Lemond actually bought Time USA and will be distributing not only Lemond bikes and trainers but Time bikes and pedals as well. Having worked closely with Time now for 25 years, Lemond felt it was a great fit and knew they could build bikes Greg would be proud of. Greg decided about a year ago that he wanted his own line of bikes again and also purchased the Revolution trainer design back in December.

For now Time is offering limited edition Lemond themed bikes, but changes to the Revolution trainer are already here and more bikes on the way.

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Currently, Time is offering 3 limited edition Time bikes celebrating Lemond’s career. Each bike features a Custom Lemond themed paint job but the bikes are current Time models. The first “Lemond” built by Time should be here by March – and they’re being tight lipped about what we’ll see.

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Of the 3 limited eidition bikes, the Combine celebrates Designer and engineer Jean Marc Gueugneaud and the first carbon bike to win the Tour de France. It’s also a nod to Greg’s win in the Combination Jersey Competition in 1986.

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The Team ADR highlights the 1989 tour and the colors of the ADR team jersey.

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Finally, the Team Z of course honors the founding of Lemond Bicycles in 1986 which was the first American bicycle company to win the tour or win the tour on a carbon bike in 1990.

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The other big news is changes to the Lemond Revolution trainer. The trainer is known for producing one of the most life like road feels, but has been hindered by lack of performance data without the expensive Power Pilot unit and of course the jet-about-to-take-off noise. The performance data has now been addressed with an ANT+ module that is offered on nee trainers and retrofittable to old models. As far as the noise, Lemond claims they are actively working on a solution that maintains the road feel yet quiets things down. Another plus is the trainers are now 11 speed compatible. Lemond has also hinted at two new trainers coming in the next year.

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Now called the Revolution 1.1 and the original the 1.0, 1.1s will retail for $629 or with a cassette for $659-899 depending on the model, Shimano or Campy. 1.0 trainers are still being sold and can be upgraded to 11 speed or ANT+ but have a wider footprint than the new 1.1.

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ANT+ watt modules (the black part at the top of the trainer that reads the integrated flywheel magnet) are offered as an upgrade for both 1.1 and 1.0 trainers for $249. The 1.0 11 speed upgrade kit runs $99.

 

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OlyOop
OlyOop
11 years ago

Mondrian or GTFO!

Will the bikes feature Lemond’s traditional long top tubes?

nathan
nathan
11 years ago

Working on a solution for fan noise? Fluid resistance unit with a heavy flywheel. Fixed that for you!

The Conductor
The Conductor
11 years ago

I’m happy for him.

Bring back the Poprad!

Ross Ewich
Ross Ewich
11 years ago

ya know, i never cared for the Lemond brand. dont know why- just didnt. but after the wringer this guy went thru… i want to buy one just to give him a “thumbs up”.

(Time makes an excellent frame, paint schemes are cool, and new life/respect to the brand… this seems to be winner.)

[and OlyOop is right about the Mondrian… THAT is a pure classic design. unfortunately i’m afraid that’s kinda LOOK’s (Times biggest competitor) baby]

jon jon
jon jon
11 years ago

now I finally have a reason to buy a carbon bike. I love my Poprad, it gets ridden more than my Indy Fab.

Shanghaied
Shanghaied
11 years ago

@OlyOop: Isn’t Mondrian Look’s thing though?

Chris
11 years ago

For a second I thought someone had made a major rookie mistake putting the QR skewers on the drive side. Looks like it necessary to work with the display though still looks wrong.

As for top tube length, a longer top tube doesn’t mean a longer reach. Anyone who thinks it does has a poor understanding of geometry.

Good having LeMond back.

Steve @ G4G
11 years ago

I’m totally excited to see his return to bikes, but am totally disappointed with the colors. The TDF yellow looks horrendous with neon yellow. I also think the font should be new or from the original bikes, but not from the Trek era.

Ajax
Ajax
11 years ago

Yes! Really glad to see the Lemond bike brand back.

I do think, however, that Lemond needs to start anew. It’s a fresh start. Lemond bikes needs to distance itself from its Trek past as much as possible. New logo is a must.

Oh, and pls. Bring back the Poprad, with disc brakes and thru-axles please. And a Paris-Roubaix type of wide tire clearance disc road bike will be good too. It is rumored that the UCI is going to use either 2014 or 2015 as a test race for disc brakes for road competition use.

Ajax
Ajax
11 years ago

Oops. I meant to say that it is rumored that the UCI is looking at allowing disc brakes at Paris-Roubaix in 2014 or 2015 as a test race for seeing how well it would work on a wide scale issue in road racing.

g
g
11 years ago

@Chris- “As for top tube length, a longer top tube doesn’t mean a longer reach. Anyone who thinks it does has a poor understanding of geometry.”

Could you explain that please? It seems to me that if you increase effective top tube length, while keeping other variables such as head and seat-tube angles the same, then you do indeed increase reach. Am I missing something? Maybe I just have a poor understanding of geometry.

nick
nick
11 years ago

11 speed and ANT+. THANKYOU for making this retrofittable to the older Revolution – THE BEST trainer on the market.

Great to see them fixing the bugs they had, and in partnering with Time, i’m pretty sure their bikes will be amazing come the new year.

+1 for the new logo.

Matt
Matt
11 years ago

Who ever thought to throw on that awful neon fade paint should be fired immediately never to work in the bike industry again. That is really embarrassing.

Sascha
Sascha
11 years ago

@Matt – did you read the article? The neon is an ode to the colours he wore in those Tour wins…back in the day those colours were copied on many a custom bike…neon is everywhere now with jersey’s shoes etc…obvious @ Matt you’re not in the industry?

rico
rico
11 years ago

Steve @ G4G

I agree, but I like the look of these frames. Can anyone tell if this is a fluidity or is it a NXS?

If they take the Yellow off the top tube it would look nice with just the neon accents. One or the other color for accents I guess, but the mix of plain yellow and neon is weird.

The Goats
11 years ago

Happy Happy Joy Joy
Happy Happy Joy Joy
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where do we send $ for a Poprad!

LeMond geometry generally fell to a slacker seat angle which resulted in a longer top tube BUT would give SAME REACH with same saddle position in relation to the BB.

XOXO

The Goats

carl
11 years ago

@g – LeMonds did have long top tubes…. but they also had relaxed (slack) seat tube angles. With a relaxed seat tube angle you wind up pushing the saddle forward (to get your correct saddle setback) thus shortening the effective length of the TT.

Erik
Erik
11 years ago

Frames should have been made out of steel.

Bruce
Bruce
11 years ago

Go Greg!! Yes, disc brake thru axle Poprad!! Please!!!

Great Gazoo
Great Gazoo
11 years ago

The Lemonds of old were Trek built and designed… The long top tube was likely by Trek for Trek to make them different than the other Treks being sold as Treks.

Dan Cohen
Dan Cohen
11 years ago

Just picked up an as-new Poprad (my second) and it’s STILL awesome! Regretted selling my old one in Paris after riding the Pyrenees – so happy to have another one. Raced my old steel “Zurich” in Paris.

Welcome back to the Pelotan, Lemond Cycles!

PS/ Greg was amongst the first proponents of changing the angles from steep euro-crit style bikes to more stable and comfortable angles. You can read all about his philosphy about frames and fitting in the book he wrote, “Greg Lemond’s Complete Book of Cycling” which I used (and still use) as the base for fitting all my bikes for the past 25 years.

Cheers!

Bob
Bob
11 years ago

If you’re moving the seat forward on the rails you’re admitting the top tube is creating a longer reach. And they were that way because Greg wanted them that way not because of trek. If you’re riding in the drops you want a longer reach think about it. As your torso lowers you have less distance to the headset. Now bikes are made for fat old guys like me who ride the hoods. Lemond’s company was called Lemond Racing Cycles for a reason.

Seraph
Seraph
11 years ago

No…just, no…

Haya
Haya
11 years ago

He should release a saddle called lance.

jaas
jaas
11 years ago

the frameset pictured is $4500. is that still exciting? Is that still happy happy joy joy? because to me i see just another bike. i’d kinda rather just have a Time, then a Time w/ lemond stickers on it. http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15516/New-LeMond-bicycles-just-the-start-for-the-company-more-models-planned-for-2014.aspx

K11
K11
11 years ago

agree with erik. where is the high end modern day steel bike that everyone wants, but anything manufactures want to do is carbon? c’mon lemond.

roger hasper
11 years ago

Bring on those bad ass steel bikes that drove Lemonds brand in the first place. Greg’s our true American hero. Best news of 2013 bicycle industry news. Lemond can be America’s Bianchi.

Shawn
Shawn
11 years ago

Lemond is a baby. All of you who praise him have not followed him over the years.

Topmounter
Topmounter
11 years ago

That’s not a very nice thing to say Lanc… err… I mean Shawn.

Roy
Roy
11 years ago

On the contrary. Raced with him in 86, been a fan ever since. As class as they come. The man is a human being, not a myth.

Dolan Halbrook
Dolan Halbrook
11 years ago

Wasn’t that first carbon LeMond to win the TdF essentially a Calfee?

dirtyonethirty
dirtyonethirty
11 years ago

Lemonds “longer top tube” was due to a slacker seat tube angle. It was something Lemond and his coach came up with to fully utilze the new clipless pedals advantages. It was before Trek. (They did fudge the geo numbers when they went carbon to make Lemonds seem different than Trek by measuring the seat tube length at different spots, but they were the same frames)
The different geometry became fairly common in the industry and really wasn’t unique to Lemond past the mid 90’s. Top tube length in a custom bike is pretty much all in the riders dimensions, however seat tube angle is tweaked for ride and handling.
And yes, Calfee made Lemonds first carbon TDF bikes.

joeenglert
joeenglert
11 years ago

dd

joeenglert
11 years ago

lemond won the tour on TVT carbon frames never on calfee!!! calfee was used in 91 when indurain won

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