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2014 Specialized Mountain Bikes – New StumpJumper Frame, Redesigned Camber, and new Crave

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Much like the Epic line, the Stumpjumper hard tail sees changes for 2014 as well with a new FACT 11M frame on the S-Works models. Fitted with new geometry, SWAT compatibility, 142+ dropouts, and a lighter overall weight, the Stumpy still manages to put more power to the pedals with a refined BB area. The S-Works frames don’t have all the fun though, as the rest of the carbon frames with the exception of the Comp Carbon receive a new Fact IS 10 carbon frame that is also SWAT compatible. Both the 10 and the 11 frames feature new internal cable routing and a PF 30 BB.

Check out the new Camber and Crave after the break!

S Works Stump Jumper Frame

The Stumpjumper will be available in a frameset, offering the 11m frame which weighs around 1,050g. The frameset includes the custom RockShox Sid WC Brain equipped fork and a carbon S-Works post for $3,400. Complete Stumpjumpers will range from  the entry level Comp at $2,000 to the top of the line S-Works at $7,800.

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What was Carve, is now Crave. Details are slim, but we’re guessing there were issues with the name Carve which resulted in switching two letters to form the new name.

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Regardless, the new aluminum Crave features a fully butted M4 aluminum 29er frame with a tapered headset, and improved compliance at the rear end. Available in Pro, Expert (pictured), Comp, and basic Crave, each model is based around a 100mm suspension fork with the addition of a Crave SL single speed model with their Chisel rigid carbon fork.

Retail on the Crave is $1,300 (SL) – $2,000 (Pro).

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Trail riders get in on the action of some new bikes as well, with the introduction of a redesigned carbon Camber range. You’ll notice everything in Specialized’ line up is still 29 or 26 – no 650b. Specialized is pretty clear that they will not introduce a 650b bike in 2013. Having ridden others and built mid sized prototypes of their own, it isn’t out of the question for the future, but for now Specialized is pushing their wide range of 29ers to fit the smallest to largest riders.

So, it’s no surprise then that the Camber keeps its large hoops, and picks up a sleek new design as well. The S-Works Camber above carries a full Fox CTD Kashima suspension compliment, SRAM XX1 drivetrain, the new S-Works carbon crank, the new Roval Carbon Control Trail SL 142+ wheelset, and Formula T1 brakes. All of that comes at a price obviously, with retail set at $9,250, and the S-Works Camber frame at $4,250. Unlike the Epic and SJ framesets, the Camber does not include a fork, but does include the Command Post IR.

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Changes to the frame include new internal cable routing, as well as the new concentric pivot rear shock block for better FSR movement and improved power transfer. There is also an all new S-Works version with the new FACT 11M carbon frame. The Camber doesn’t pick up the SWAT compatibility like the Epics, though it does have room for the Zee cage with the EMT mount at the bottom. Internal cable routing means the frame is compatible with the new Command Post IR with reduced lever force and its new head design – one we’re pretty keen on checking out.

Two versions of the Camber frame will be offered – the standard with 110mm travel, a 70° head angle, 335mm BB height, and 449mm chainstays, and the EVO versions with a 69° head tube angle, 333mm BB height, and 120mm of travel. The EVO will be offered in the Expert Carbon version and a lower priced M5 alloy model.

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The Camber Expert Carbon Evo starts with a new FACT 9M frame with 120mm travel as mentioned, though the rear triangle is M5 alloy. An Autosag equipped Fox float CTD shock is mated to a Rock Shox Pike RC up front. Drivetrain duties are given to a SRAM X01 set up with Formula T1S brakes, and Roval Traverse All mountain wheels and a Command Post IR to cap it all off.

Retail: $6,000

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The non-EVO Camber Expert Carbon has a full Fox suspension spec, and a 2×10 X0 drivetrain rather than X01. It does get upgrades to the wheels though, with Roval Control Carbon 142+ hoops.

Pricing for the new Camber sits between the Camber FSR 29 at $1,850 and the new S-Works Camber at $9,250.

Other than a few spec changes, the Stumpjumper FSR line continues through unchanged, along with most of the Enduro line (with the exception of the Enduro Evo).

All images ©Wil Matthews / Specialized, used with permission.

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DB4L
DB4L
9 years ago

Anything new in the works for the Stumpjumper EVO 29er? Wondering if they are moving from a 1×10 to 1×11 this year.

Earth Rocker
Earth Rocker
9 years ago

4…3…2…1…queue up the Specialized h8tor’s

baller
baller
9 years ago

Still no 650b. Amazing.

m4rkito5
m4rkito5
9 years ago

Jeez! frame at $4,250! 8|

Colin
Colin
9 years ago

Specialized Swears up and down there will be no Twiener bikes as 650 is a truck load of marketing hype and a not as good as 29. You’ll probably have to wait ’til 2015 MY to see 650 from Specialized….

The Guy
The Guy
9 years ago

I remember back in 2006, attending an early launch meeting in MoHill. “Two Niners are a truck load of marketing hype and not as good as 26.”

Now they’re saying the same about 650B. Same ol Specialized! <3

Mindless
Mindless
9 years ago

Brain forks are weird. Why no frame alone? And $3K for a hardtail frame?

Ha-ha
Ha-ha
9 years ago

Yeah, so, check the photo on the main page… sneaky sneaky with the shot of the crux

Rich
Rich
9 years ago

I like Specialized bikes. But if I were spending S-Works money on a bike, I’d want it to feel a bit more *exclusive* and be a little more rare on the trails. You could spec a Yeti SB95C or a Rocky Mountain Instinct with carbon everything and still get change compared to the S-Works Camber or Stumpy 29…

turtlehead
turtlehead
9 years ago

My prediction is that they will release a couple 650b bikes late in the season when they see the entire industry has moved from 26 to 650b. MY2015 will probably have no 26ers.

MMyers
MMyers
9 years ago

@turtlehead

For my 2014, there is exactly 1 26″ bike between all of the Epics, Cambers, and Stumpjumpers.

26″ will continue to be the choice for DH for 2-3 more years, IMO

DB4L
DB4L
9 years ago

@Zack: Thanks. I should have been more clear, I was actually thinking about an update for this bike: http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/mountain/sjht/stumpjumperevo29

Brian Bak
Brian Bak
9 years ago

Does anyone know the weight of the new S-works stumpjumper?

Robo
Robo
9 years ago

@turtlehead they’ve subtlely hinted at that before; that they believe the future is probably 650b and 29″ with the 26″ bikes being relegated to “big kids bikes’ land. DH bikes excluded.

KJR
KJR
9 years ago

LOL @ Specialized calling something “a truckload of marketing hype”! Ever heard the one about the pot and the kettle?

Bart
9 years ago

@Brian Bak: frameweight should be about 1.050 grams for the S-Works Stumpjumper (Hardtail)

Matt
Matt
9 years ago

It is smart of Spec to take a second mover advantage on 650b.

satisFACTORYrider
satisFACTORYrider
9 years ago

i would entertain a 650b 160mm ohlins injected enduro if i had no choice

Greg
Greg
9 years ago

Or a new Trek 9.9 EX 29 Sram for a $1000 less and the ability to pick my paint colors, hmmm…

Sardinian Rider
Sardinian Rider
9 years ago

I bet my market will get that Stumpy HT Sworks in ugly @ss white…… :-/. Red is beautiful.

Earth Rocker
Earth Rocker
9 years ago

Who exactly is buying all these 650b wunder-bikes? I live in the 4th largest city in the U.S. and attend races at the 3rd largest Mt.Bike race series in the U.S. and I can count on one finger all the 650b bikes I’ve seen on a trail or line up at a XC race here in Texas.

Yeah I “get it” the 650b stuff makes sense for DH and Enduro stuff kinda but who is actually buying it? My local shop has sold and gotten requests for fat bikes but as of yet nobody has come in looking for a 650b same goes for other local shops the 650b hype just isn’t there.

If you don’t like the fact that Specialized isn’t embracing the “tweener” market then vote with dollars with one of the manufacturers that is offering the 650b size and quit complaining about Specialized.

Greg
Greg
9 years ago

@Earth Rocker – I agree! I ride in the Canadian Rockies and the trails are packed every night and weekend outside of my city. I have yet to see 1 650b bike. I’m sure they’re there, but the team I ride with says the same thing, nobody has seen one in the wild??? Love the 29er and love the new Camber!

Topmounter
Topmounter
9 years ago

for $4,250 that frame is made in the USA… right?

ccolagio
ccolagio
9 years ago
Rain
Rain
9 years ago

650B bikes can sit in shops or on shelves till the 26 stuff has been lowballed out the door and out of existence, The industry has spoken! You will be assimilated.

patrik
patrik
9 years ago

I need 650b. I don’t know why, but I do. Everyone else is making them, so Specialized should too.
Don’t ask me why they’re necessary, I just know I need one, as some guy at the trailhead told me about it. Instead of riding, he spends all his time talking about bikes; he knows everything from instant center to unsprung weight. He sucks at riding, but boy can he talk about riding with the best of them. He just said that the 29 rolls over stuff better than a 26, but the 26 if more “flickable.” Well, he said, if you add the numbers 26 and 29 and divide by two, you get 27.5, which means it incorporates EXACTLY the advantages of both sizes without none of the drawbacks.

I was sold. I haven’t ridden anything yet, but I know I need a 650b. And since Specialized doesn’t make one, they suck. They can answer with logic and reasoning, but my inability to put into words why I need a 650b is all that matters. Thanks to most of you for joining me in my idiotic mission to give progress to a standard nobody needed but that a bunch marketing mumbo jumbo has now shoved down our throats.

Til next time, when the industry needs a 31er.

gravity
gravity
9 years ago

Echoing what others have said, where I sit, there seems to be very little or no interest in 650b bikes in the mainstream of cycling. Giant is the first major player to move to 650b, and I’m sure that the big guns (Trek, Specialized, Cannondale) will now play wait-and-see before they make any moves.

Trek especially is so invested in 29er that it’s hard to see them moving to 650b without being dragged in kicking and screaming. From their perspective, they invested a TON of money in basically popularizing the wheel size, and I think that this time, they’re going to wait it out and let the smaller players foot the bill for tooling up a whole new standard.

Bob
Bob
9 years ago

GO RIDE BIKES!

Yep
Yep
9 years ago

@ gravity …

As far as Trek not going 650b you might be surprised. Just a hunch.

Also the “650b” is a Euro standard. Look for 27.5 in the states.

Also look for manufacturers to try to get rid of the year model label on bikes. Dealers will appreciate that as they won’t necessarily have to drop prices on last year models.

pornitswhatlwouldratherbmaking
pornitswhatlwouldratherbmaking
9 years ago

that red frame is hardcore ugly

ColinR
ColinR
9 years ago

@Earth Rocker, look harder. I’ve seen quite a few 650b bikes at the TMBRA races. Mostly conversions currently, but I think it’s a safe assumption that it’s because very few 650b race bikes are actually in production and available currently. I also know of a handful of people in the Fort Worth area with 650b bikes who don’t race. They definitely don’t stand out quite like 29ers did when they first started becoming popular so you really have to look a bit harder to notice them.

Nathan
Nathan
9 years ago

Ok, so the reason nobody has seen many 650B bikes at the trailhead is because a lot if them have been announced, but not released. There are 25 years worth of 26″ bikes out there and 5ish(?) years worth of 29ers. Common sense.

Now, why has Giant gone all in on the tweener wheels with no response from Specialized? Well, partially at least, Specialized doesn’t make their own low- and mid-range bikes. That honour falls to Merida, so it takes longer for Specialized to pivot to a new manufacturing line. Giant has the advantage of making their own bikes.

As to which wheel size is better / your favourite / cooler, having ridden all three they are at least _different_. But the 650b wheels are getting a lot of positive comments from our riders, especially the smaller, less powerful riders. These guys and gals really appreciate the extra acceleration of the middle wheel size.

@Yep – I reckon you might be right about Trek going 650b. After all, Giant do a lot of manufacturing for Trek in the low end…

Legless
Legless
9 years ago

-Thank you Schwinn for investing in the future of mt. biking so heavily.
(these 2 go together)
Giant releases 27.5″ nobody cares, I think that’s how the headline went.

-Trek only invested so much in 29ers so Gary Fisher can now wear custom suits everyday.

-Specialized is testing out 650b bikes with no specific bike they’ve liked enough to move forward on.

-that’s it for me, I like my 29ers.

Brian Bak
Brian Bak
9 years ago

@Bart: I ment for the whole bike. I can see in the post on the new epic that the WC edition only weighs 19.9 pounds.

a
a
9 years ago

caracaaa que animal!!analityyyy

HamboCairns
HamboCairns
9 years ago

The Crave Expert looks pretty nice I have to say!

MMyers
MMyers
9 years ago

@Nathan

Specialized doesn’t “make” ANY of their bikes, or anything else S branded for that matter.

That’s not to say that that’s a bad thing – Apple is a design company too, and they seem to do quite well also.

Dave
Dave
9 years ago

Don’t worry for all of you that want a 27.5″ bike. PIVOT is going to release some amazing new bikes for 2014. Plus PIVOT will have geometry that makes sense for for the 27.5″. Just wait one more week and the world will see all of the new candy.

patrik
patrik
9 years ago

@Rich “But if I were spending S-Works money on a bike, I’d want it to feel a bit more *exclusive*”

How many S-Works do you see on the trails?! Are they everywhere? I live in big money town and I rarely see them. When I do, they turn my head.

I’m on a 2004 GT XCR-5000. They’re *exclusive*, if you mean that there aren’t many around.

satisFACTORYrider
satisFACTORYrider
9 years ago

after being on both spesh & pivots an enduro 650b would own the 5.7 650b. i’ll pass on the pivot and wait

Martin
Martin
9 years ago

Hope to see some first ride impressions of the new Stumpjumper HT carbon and looking forward to a comprehensive review as well.

MMyers
MMyers
9 years ago

Well, Trek is riding the 650b train.

http://reviews.mtbr.com/revealed-trek-remedy-and-slash-27-5650b

I guess some of you guys might be happy, but I doubt it, ya curmudgeons.

danwiz
danwiz
9 years ago

Just cause you don’t understand what’s going on with specialized
don’t mean it don’t make no sense
And just cause you don’t like it, don’t mean it ain’t no good
All of you complaining about stuff n bitchin about specialized are worse than a bunch of women

MikeTheCoolPerson
MikeTheCoolPerson
9 years ago

My 2 cents worth. The reason some people are really in to the 650b is because they are only slightly bigger than a 26, which is what they are used to. Check your measurements. They are just over 27, not 27.5. For everyone marketing their 27.5 as the best of both worlds…. How can a 27.1″ wheel roll as well as a 29er? It can’t. Specialized will do a 650b when they see a place for it in their range.
And another thing (while I’m here), I don’t get why people who hate Specialized products take the time to read through all this stuff only to say how much they don’t like them. I wish I had that much spare time to waste.
Cheers, have a nice day.

Nathan
Nathan
9 years ago

@MMyers – Thanks for the clarification! I wasn’t sure how Spesh did their top end stuff. I agree that it’s neither a completely good or bad thing whether a bike company manufactures “in house” or not. But either way has its own advantages and disadvantages. I more wanted to point out that a company’s design decisions often don’t rest *solely* on “how a bike rides” or “what’s best for the customer”.

@MikeTheCoolPerson – You say “How can a 27.1″ wheel roll as well as a 29er? It can’t.” And you are right. But it’s also important to point out that neither the attack angle of a wheel, nor the weight of bike wheel, behave linearly with respect to wheel radius. I haven’t done the maths myself, but the idea is that the 650b sits close to a 29er in terms of attack angle while being close to a 26er in weight. Who knows how true that is, or to what degree it matters on the trail, but it’s worth considering.

For the record, I’m not really a fan of either Giant or Specialized – far too mainstream for a snob such as myself. 29+ is clearly the best wheel size 😉

Luke
Luke
9 years ago

That Merida trash still going on?!

Specialized are made in Merida factories, yes.

However Merida do not have access to how to make their bikes, nor do Merida staff make Specialized bikes. Specialized use part of the merida factory and use their own staff and technologies to make their bikes. Speshy not entering 650b has nothing to do with Merida at all.
As for marketing hype, I have never heard more of it than 27.5. If they were honest its 27.1….
Just sayin’….

dave
dave
9 years ago

Funny to hear all the “experts”…

Stan
Stan
9 years ago

Luke, if you think “Specialized employees” are making Specialized bikes, then I have a bridge to sell you. Specialized uses Merida as one manufacturing company, as well as probably A-Pro, VIP, Giant, Strongman, among others. I am sure they have a full time person overseeing each production run, which is common but no Specialized production employees because they don’t even own their own factories like Giant does.

27.1″, 27.5″, 650b………Just the naming isn’t set yet, and set up for failure from the beginning with so much confusion. If I were Mike Sinyard, I’d be waiting until this wheel size has flushed itself out anyway. Let Giant and Trek be the guinea pigs to see if there is any sell-in/sell through! Not many folks coming into my shop asking for 650b. It’s all 29er still for MTB’s. Plus, 27.5/650b looks like a 26″ wheel, so the sale will be harder than 29″ wheel.

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