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NAHBS 2017: Abbey Bike Tools takes the guess work out of saddle measurement, teases Rock Shox tools, Ti HAG, more

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This year at NAHBS, Abbey Bike Tools had a lot to show, but there was one thing in their booth that was certainly the center of attention. And why wouldn’t it? Take some of the best tools around and give them a custom finish from Speedvagen all in a matching tool box, and you have some the most beautiful (and painfully) expensive sets of tools on the planet. In an exclusive partnership with Sacha White and Speedvagen, Abbey had three tool sets made up fro NAHBS that were up for sale. The price? Just $775, and the last time I spoke with Jason Quade, only one set remained…

All three sets had different paint schemes to showcase what could be done with the tool sets in terms of custom bikes. The idea being that future or current owners of Speedvagen customs could have a tool set made up to perfectly match their bike. Each set includes a custom Crombie tool, chain whip, and pedal wrench along with a set of four allen keys and two torx wrenches. Unlike the standard Crombie tool and chain whip, these aren’t designed to nest inside each other. Instead, they have larger cloth tape wrapped handles to further increase the luxury factor. There is even a matching lock for the custom Speedvagen case. While $775 might be a lot to spend on a small set of tools, if you’re the type to already have a matching Silca pump, these are for you.

On a much more practical note, Abbey was showing off their new saddle Fit Kit which is a simple device meant to eliminate all of the soft points of saddle positioning. The device is placed on top of a saddle and positioned so that the saddle nose touches the vertical divider. Then, you can quickly and easily measure to various points with notches at the UCI setback point as well as 100 and 150mm behind the nose of the saddle.

The kit also includes saddle height bullets for 8 and 10mm bolts as well as the Shimano Hollowtech II preload cap. The bullets are magnetic and stick to the edge of any tape measure with a steel guard and ensure consistent measurement from the exact center of the crank. In addition to measuring saddle height and set back, the plate enables accurate placement of a level. The kit has a target retail of about $150 and should be available in late May.

Definitely in the traveling mechanic category, Abbey was showing off a new Team Issue version of the HAG – with a titanium head. Dropping the weight by 160g, Jason says only 18 were made, and only 8 of those will be for sale on the website at $325.

Finally, we got a sneak peek at a collaboration with Rock Shox that will be officially released at Sea Otter. In the works for over a year, Rock Shox will soon have a full tool kit for their suspension and dropper posts made by Abbey Bike Tools that includes a DU bushing remover, Seal Tool, Reverb and Charger Damper wrenches, and a socket for SID forks. According to Jason Quade, he had already started working on the reverb wrench and seal tool when Rock Shox approached him about the potential of working together. More details when we get ’em from the Otter!

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b_p_t
b_p_t
7 years ago

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bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago
Reply to  b_p_t

That’s pretty weak deleting the above comment.. You guys screen comments like a communist government.

Kristi Benedict
Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  bearcol

bearcol, and all, just a friendly reminder: https://bikerumor.com/comments-policy/

Rick
Rick
7 years ago

You have a pretty broad set of rules to delete whatever you want. I can see deleting personal attacks, but to delete someone’s opinion about a product is unacceptable. I understand though, since they pay your bills, correct?

Kristi Benedict
Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  Rick

Rick, if you can back that opinion up with some substance, that’s fine. But posting “Worst thing ever” or similar is probably going to get deleted.

We cover anyone and everyone in the bike industry and the vast majority of the products we cover do not advertise with us. In fact, your clicks pay us as well, and keeping a civilized comments section is important to us for keeping our readers coming back.

bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago

To comment on the “clicks pay your bills and keeping it civilized keeps our readers coming back” I say you probably have that backwards. If you let people say whatever they want you encourage traffic. Censorship as a tool to increase clicks seems counter productive. Provide a free, open site for expression and I’ll bet traffic would increase.

Just some honest feedback from a MTB media junky who’s been on the brink of giving up on you guys for a while now.

Kristi Benedict
Admin
7 years ago
Reply to  bearcol

Thanks for the feedback, bearcol. In our experience, letting the comments go unmanaged sometimes leads to a pile-on of negativity, which often discourages positive and/or constructive comments. This is not the atmosphere we want to promote.

Rick
Rick
7 years ago

I understand deleting threatening messages, but I still think you are censoring people without good reason.
I know it’s your website and I can choose not to visit, but I can’t believe you have an issue with someone saying something is the worst ever. No harm in that opinion.
I understand the gross nature of an overwhelmingly negative comments section, but I think you’re taking it too far. Just my opinion.

bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago

The atmosphere you are promoting is one of censorship. My 10 clicks per day on this site are over. I almost let your constant coverage of E-bikes run me off. Excessive censorship seals the deal.

bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago

I didn’t realize you had stringent comment rules. I don’t understand why you have a comment policy in the first place? We are talking bikes here. I mean, who really cares if someone makes a less than productive comment? No one is being obscene, shooting fire in a crowded theater, inciting violence…… Let people express themselves however they want! The comment you deleted was harmless. You can justify the deletes with your policies but that facts are you are suppressing expression.

bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago

Who buys this stuff?

Chris
Chris
7 years ago
Reply to  bearcol

If I was still working as a race mechanic I would!!! An Ellis case full of steel tools is pretty heavy and there are times where you sometimes have to schlep your tools and work stand quite some distance. Replacing some of those steel tools with lighter titanium ones to knock off a few pounds is something I would have happily done.

bearcol
bearcol
7 years ago
Reply to  Chris

You must have made bank if you could afford to buy tools this expensive.775 is just outrageous for what you get. No matter how much money I made I could never justify overpaying like this just to save a few pounds. I

h
h
7 years ago
Reply to  bearcol

Just like all car mechanics who use Snap-On make bank? I doubt Chris meant that he would buy the custom painted versions. If you are a race mechanic stuff like this would make your life easier, plus it would be tax deductible.

Alex
Alex
7 years ago
Reply to  h

Check out Garagejournal.com if you want to see what kind of money people will spend on tools and boxes. Those new special edition painted Snap-On boxes start at $5700. This collab with Speedvagen sounds like a limited edition with THREE kits made. Not something that was designed to appeal to everyone obviously.
Good tools pay for themselves. Abbey does not make inexpensive stuff, this is the market position they have (some what successfully from what it looks like) staked out. Good for them if there is a customer out there.

Chris
Chris
7 years ago
Reply to  bearcol

Should be apparent from my comment that I was talking about the Ti Hag and not the Speedvagen kit. That kit is just plain silly.

keville
keville
7 years ago

Love my Abbey tools; the HAG puts a smile on my face every time I use it because of its excellent design, and the dual-sided crombie is a genuine improvement in my toolbox over loose lock ring tools and separate handles.

Jason
Jason
7 years ago
Reply to  keville

+1 on the Crombie…excellent piece of kit.

Rick
Rick
7 years ago

Censorship indeed

RED
RED
7 years ago

I really want to like the saddle tool, but I’m just not seeing any benefit over using my level (with angle measure), a length of cardboard to lay flat across the saddle and a tape measure…

What am I missing, apart from some green machined parts?

Mechanic
Mechanic
7 years ago
Reply to  RED

Consistency and reproducible measurements quickly.

Chris
Chris
7 years ago
Reply to  Mechanic

Bingo. I made something similar with a scrap of 3mm marine plywood which I then glassed over for durability. Not refined as this tool but a huge improvement over cardboard. 😉

Nellie Bertram
Nellie Bertram
7 years ago
Reply to  RED

If you are using scrap cardboard, you are probably not getting paid to do it and that tool is probably not for you.

Shafty
Shafty
7 years ago

It’s preferable to have a more resilient tool because the reference points never change. When you do fits all day, repeatability and precision are important. Yeah, cardboard “works”, but when you don’t have a piece handy, or it bends slightly, it won’t work as well as something more stable. A tool with a built in rule would help too. Sometimes it’s about the theatre of performing a fit. If the customer insists on watching, looking as professional as possible is in your best interest.

I use their suspension sockets every day in our suspension room. Definitely an improvement over any chrome steel sockets. They don’t ever rough up corners or the finish on dampers.

Marin
Marin
7 years ago

This is actually genius. Charging that much for common tools in a tin box.
So, they sell 7.5$ worth of tools for 100x as much means they only really need to sell very little to make a lot of money.
No dealing with huge cargo crates, logistics involved, mass marketing, large manpower to deal with it etc.
Why sell for 1 if you can sell for 100?

h
h
7 years ago
Reply to  Marin

I understand that custom painted tools are an extravagance but if you think that Abbey tools, or any nice tool is that cheap to make, you couldn’t possibly have ever used any nice tool ever. Nice tools are expensive to make. Nobody who actually uses nice tools ever complains about the price, be it Abbey, Silca, Snap-On, whatever.

The argument that your cheap tools do the same job is just fine. If you want to continue thinking that an Abbey HAG is the same as a Park DAG go for it, but I think you’re missing out.

drjon
7 years ago

For the more negative commentators here: if you work on bikes a lot, and you have some Abbey tools in hand, their value is obvious. It seems crazy to work on high value, and in some ways delicate, components with crap tools. if you happen to be working on lots of bikes, that gets mutiplied. for the home wrench, there is a distinct pleasure in using good tools, too.

TheKaiser
TheKaiser
7 years ago
Reply to  drjon

I agree about the value of good tools. The unfortunate fact, though, is that being a bicycle mechanic is one of the lowest paid skilled mechanical jobs out there, so when the majority of mechanics see this stuff that would cost them 2 weeks pay then it seems discordant to them. If these were aircraft tools and aircraft mechanics then few would question it.

PsiSquared
PsiSquared
7 years ago
Reply to  TheKaiser

Yet apparently Abbey has no problem selling tools. If someone’s not going to be buy a special edition tool set, I’m not sure what the point of complaining about it is. If one’s complaining about the price, one is likely not part of the market segment at which this kit is targeted.

AverageConsumer
AverageConsumer
7 years ago

these seem overpriced

Carl
Carl
7 years ago

Agreeing with drjon here. For the average home mechanic, your standard Park Tool kit is just fine and will last “forever”, but in a shop or on the road any tool will see much more use and needs to be up to the job. Also add in that these tools are low-volume and handmade and you get an eye-watering price.

PFS
PFS
7 years ago

These tools are awesome. The painted tools are way over priced but so are custom bikes that have custom painted to match pumps. The only issue I see (ABBY I HOPE YOU ARE LISTENING) is that the rockshox sockets should have slots in them so I dont have to remove the remote hydraulic lines to change the oil. Every time I need a new socket for forks I have to face the end and add a slot. I would prefer a quality tool that didnt need modification.

Rider X
7 years ago

I don’t know why anyone gets suckered into paying for bike tools. I am able to build all my own bike tools from cardboard, toothpicks and used steel shifter cable.

Chris
Chris
7 years ago
Reply to  Rider X

Toothpicks? Well look at you Mr Fancypants! I used twigs which I grind into toothpicks using rocks. 😉

David
David
7 years ago
Reply to  Rider X

Haha you win the internet for that. Obviously the folks who don’t comprehend the value of these tools probably have never used them and don’t work on bikes that these tools were designed for. When I was working in the industry and managing service departments it wasnt uncommon to see bikes costing upwards of 15 grand. I would shit myself if I took a ferrari in to get serviced and the mechanic was using craftsman… it shows a dedication to excellence. Then again it’s like any hobby in life, it’s pay to play… you can’t spend it when your dead.

Paniagua
Paniagua
7 years ago

I love good tools and part of being a traveling mechanic is having trick sh*t but…..I have seen an Abbey chain whip bend and become unusable trying to hold a cassette whose lockring was on pretty tight.

Jason Quade
7 years ago
Reply to  Paniagua

Some of our earlier chain whips didn’t have the durability that we were after. The current version is very stout and we will warranty any of the old ones that have failed.

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