OPEN is back at it again with an all-new WI.DE. carbon gravel bike – bigger, wider & more capable for mixed surface adventure riding than ever before. Based on their original U.P, the new Winding Detours bike is meant to venture further afield with clearance for up to massive 2.4″ tires in a lightweight performance dropbar bike meant to go fast.

Open Wi.De carbon fat tire, off-road adventure gravel bike

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Their UP & UPPER set the early bar for what a high-end carbon gravel bike could be with wide 650b x 2.1″ tires – and jumpstarted a whole niche of similar (and at time imitative) carbon gravel bikes. But Open Cycles kept seeing their light gravel bikes pushed beyond that original Unbeaten Paths they were designed for, blurring the lines between gravel & mountain bikes. So, that’s what sent Open back to the drawing board – to build an even more off-road capable gravel bike.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

It almost seems odd to call the new Wi.De a gravel bike, because this thing can fit bigger tires than most XC hardtails. But it is still meant to be a fast moving dropbar bike that can quickly jump from asphalt to gravel to trails, so gravel bike is as good a moniker as any.

The hallmarks of the original UP family remain, just opening up that mixed-surface versatility & predictable road bike rooted handling to an even wider range of terrain.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

The new Wi.De doesn’t replace the U.P. or U.P.P.E.R. which will carry on with their more road & gravel road focus and the possibility for 2x drivetrains. The Wi.De just becomes the gravel road & trail option. But Open also sees many cyclists buy their bikes to personalize them, so feel free to build up a new Wi.De however you please – as an all-road bike or a monstercrosser.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

The new, wider gravel bike is 1x specific, but still is designed to fit narrow, low Q-factor road cranksets for efficient pedaling. It does that by dropping the asymmetric chainstays design, actually just dropping both chainstays to create a wide, boxy extension of the downtube behind the BB that Open calls the monostay.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

That gives a mix of bottom bracket (read: drivetrain) stiffness, lower weight & helps achieve the extra tire clearance.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels
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It also ends up being a place that Open says is perfect to mount a tool box, protected by the chainring, but also giving a lower center of gravity.

Tall Road Geometry

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

Open calls the new geometry for the Wi.De ‘Tall Road’ which is essentially the same as on the UP, with ~2cm taller headtubes for a more upright riding position to tackle more technical terrain. Interestingly (while off-road bikes keep getting longer), the Wi.De also is at least 5mm shorter on all sizes, again support the idea of a more upright, slightly more controlled position on the bike.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

Head angles do get 0.5° or 1° slacker for some sizes, but it seems like that is more to deliver more consistent ride feel across the new wider size range than a desire to slacken or slow its handling. Open says that moving from designing around a 35mm tire for the UP, to up to a 61mm tire now necessitated the tweak for a nimble feel.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

That extra size is quite a big step too. Even with larger tires on offer, Open decided to make an XS in the new Wi.De to fit smaller riders itching for gravel adventure. They apparently had been asked for ages, and they say the shorter reach on that new XS makes this one of the smallest gravel bikes on the market.

New tech details

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

The biggest driver of the new Wi.De frameset was clearance for wider tires, so how wide?

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

With 700c wheels you can fit 35-46mm tires (up from 28-40mm on the U.P.) and on 650b wheels you can go 1.9-2.4″ (up from 1.9-2.1″ for the U.P.)

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheelsOpen is known for sweating the details, and this new 1x bike is no exception. It features modular internal routing (and foam internal liners to keep cable quiet) with just a hunt of color. Open also will make the frameset available in raw carbon for those looking to go the custom paint avenue.

While we haven’t seen it yet, Open also promised that the will have a new De-Fender  mudguard system that will soon offer full coverage fenders for the new monster gravel bike.

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

The Wi.De. uses Open’s Smartmount direct flat mounts for 160mm disc brake calipers on the frame & fork. Both are mounted directly to the bike without adapters for both a more secure & lighter setup.

Pricing & availability

OPEN WI.DE. gravel bike, carbon fat tire gravel bike off-road adventure gravel bike DT Swiss GRC1400 wheels

In the end, you get a 3200€ frameset with a claimed weight of 1040g (plus a 390g fork) that Open says will go anywhere, fast. Co-founder Andy Kessler says the bike “can conquer almost any terrain, without slowing you down on the easier roads and trails”. We didn’t get exact word on availability, but the new bike just popped up on Open’s website, and expect it to go on sale soon. So start thinking about ordering yours direct from Open, and just start to imagine how you’ll build it up, and what adventures you will have.

I spent some time riding the pleasantly comfy trail-slaying gravel bike in Italy, and will share our first impressions next week. Keep your eyes peeled.

OpenCycle.com

30 COMMENTS

  1. Maybe its just me, but once my tires get that gnarly, I’d prefer a flat bar. If you need more hand positions, bring back the bar ends!

    • Same. I view this as an extremely unfun mountain bike.
      To each there own, but it seems like an excuse for not getting playful on any downhill or any feature. Basically just saying you did it and it was “fun” because you struggled through it

      • Just the opposite. I view this as an exceptionally fun offroad MTB type bike without the limitations of a flat bar. In fact, out in NoCal decades ago this is exactly what would have been referred to as a 70’s/80’s “drop bar MTB”! A bike that many of the original MTB riders in those days (started in the Marin County area) used when most other areas of the nation had no clue what MTB even was. And those Marin “drop bar MTB” guys had no issues with handling their bikes over all types of crazy mountainous terrain with drop bars.

        If you need a flat bar to handle your MTB bike in a way to “have fun” the problem isn’t the drop bar. The problem is the lack of skill of bike’s operator! LOL 🙂

  2. I think it’s a progression less for its 27.5 capacity any more for its 700. The original could only take a 700×40 which left a lot of larger diameter tires off the table. Being able to take a 700x 46 is welcome.

  3. Okay so this is cool. So why not go a step further and lengthen the top tube by 20mm so the stems can be shorter? With big tyres means more off-road capable but not great with so much weight over the front end. And now put a dropper post on it. Wow. 27.5 x 2.4 tires, short stem, slack head tube, dropper post, 32tooth chainring, that would be super awesome. Even so this is a really cool bike as it is. I wish I was in the pay scale that could afford it…

    • “27.5 x 2.4 tires, short stem, slack head tube, dropper post, 32tooth chainring, that would be super awesome.”

      You just described a standard mountain bike. They even make them in carbon fiber painted flat grey just like this bike.

      • A standard mountain bike that can easily accommodate 700x28c tires for those days when riding on the road???? You apparently fail to understand what this bike is actually all about. 🙂

  4. Can’t imagine dropping stairs as in the image while riding on top of the hoods. Sketchy but to each their own – the options these days to build a purpose built machine for every riding type is all good IMHO. For me (east Bay Area) having a rigid 29er mtn bike is my preference for mixed terrain riding. All the advantages of big tire clearance for rutted trails (2.4!), no toe overlap, and Jones Bar capable (which also has its disadvantages for techy offroad). You can pry my 2x drivetrain out of my cold dead hands…

  5. I have not seen any mention of a change to the u-turn form they created. Does that piece remain the same of has that increased in size as well?

  6. Drop bars with short stems work well off road. I have a 29er Ti hardtai/Lefty l converted to a drop bar “monstercrosser”. It works well everywhere, very versatile. This Open, on the other hand, is too narrowly narrowly focused, and too expensive.

    • Lot’s of gravel bikes have been coming out with inappropriately short front center distances. I don’t know what they are thinking. Actually the same can be said for most new road bikes too, as road tires have increased significantly in diameter vs. 10 years ago, but the front center distances have not increased accordingly.

      The front center distance on the new 2020 Giant Revolt is not bad. The size M frame has a front center of 616 mm. Just wished that Giant had gone with BB683EVO instead of BB86.

  7. 390mm reach on an XL!!! LOL! That shouldn’t even be the reach of the XS!!!
    Head angle and seat angle and wheelbase are approaching 1990s XC bikes. Gravel bikes are just recycled old XC bikes with newer parts…

    • And current MTB’s are little more than recycled 70’/80’s drop bar MTB’s with suspension added and flat bars for the masses, who can not handle their bikes proper;y offroad with a dropper bar. LOL

  8. it’s a mtn bike with a drop bar. essentially what was starting to be raced at Leadville 100 back in 2009.. ten years ago!

    • Drop bar MTB bikes were being raced and ridden for fun in Marin County back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Steve Potts was building them already at that point. Leadville did not start a thing regarding DB MTB’s. 🙂

  9. The incremental gain of 6mm width in 700c size is barely worth it. What is the dif between 73mm BB and 68: – 5mm or 1/5 of an inch! Go mountain bike bottom bracket and now your talking clearance for true mtb tires.

  10. these head angles are still too steep people. proof “gravel bikes” is just marketing fluff. put a proper stable HA on them and then you have something worth keeping.

  11. I think it looks like a blast, but I’m a little concerned that it might be a sign that gravel bikes are starting to be marketed to dentists… ;^p

    • With the silly prices of current carbon suspension MTB’s you could make the exact same argument regarding dentists and those bikes. 🙂

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