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All-City Zig Zag rocks disc brakes and custom vibes in all-new steel frame

Written by Greg Kopecky
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All-City announced an all-new steel road bike, dubbed the Zig Zag. It’s designed for smoothness and efficiency, using their own custom-designed, air-hardened, extruded steel frame. Combining a classic design with disc brakes and detailed touches, the Zig Zag is ready to roll, descend, or just get you to the office.

Images courtesy All City.

All-City Zig Zag steel disc brake road bike

All-City has a variety of steel drop-bar bikes, and just added another to the list – the Zig Zag. Aimed as a classic-looking and class-feeling road bike, the Zig Zag pulls in modern trends like disc brakes, thru axles, and a tapered head tube.

Using a Whisky front fork, the Zig Zag is compatible with full-coverage fenders, for a dose of practicality and commute-ability.

Flat mount brakes handle stopping duties, with All-City signature dropouts keeping the style points in check. A Signature seat collar, pump peg, and head badge round out the custom look for the Zig Zag.

Geometry and sizing have yet to be released, but we do know of the basic build details: Ultegra (Rum Punch paint) for $3,999, or 105 (Purple Haze paint) for $2,699. Framesets are available in Rum Punch paint for $1,299. All are available immediately.

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threeringcircus
threeringcircus
5 years ago

Would like to see geo and some more details…love the purple! Doesn’t appear to be on the AC website yet.

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Dolan Halbrook
Dolan Halbrook
5 years ago
Reply to  threeringcircus

Here it is: https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/zig_zag_ultegra

Strangely high BB for a road bike.

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threeringcircus
threeringcircus
5 years ago
Reply to  Dolan Halbrook

Indeed…allowing for 650b compatibility? Nothing noted in terms of 650b clearance on website, though.

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JNH
JNH
5 years ago
Reply to  Dolan Halbrook

Only 5mm higher than the seeming industry average of 70mm bb drop. Maybe they went for a little extra ground clearance for gravel, the website makes it clear they expect people to ride this all over the place and not just tarmac roads..

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Dolan Halbrook
Dolan Halbrook
5 years ago
Reply to  JNH

I suppose that makes sense given the max tire size is 35.

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Roger
Roger
5 years ago

Steel fork option? Don’t care for carbon forks on my steel frames.

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Roger

NO! Buy a different bike. It’s not like you don’t have options.

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Roger
Roger
5 years ago

What is the origin/meaning of the name ALL CITY?

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bmwt
bmwt
5 years ago

A great looking bike!
The blog section of their site doesn’t get into details.
The geometry is here:
https://allcitycycles.com/bikes/zig_zag_105#geometry

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pmurf
pmurf
5 years ago

love the wet look for the photoshoot! And these colors! So much radness!

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Dinger
Dinger
5 years ago

How much does it weigh? How much tire will it clear? Where are the rear fender mounts (none evident on the dropouts)?

Looks very nice, if very pricey for a steel road bike.

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Dingo
Dingo
5 years ago
Reply to  Dinger

35mm without fenders, 32 with fenders

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago

Shame the frameset only comes in that orange (rum punch). I’d much rather have that purple haze frame and fork.

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fbhidy
fbhidy
5 years ago

A bit of info from the QBP dealer page:
The Zig Zag is a modern road bike, built to be a fast and efficient machine, shielding riders from road chatter and unnecessary fatigue to go further, faster, and have more fun. The addition of disc brakes provides confidence in all weather conditions and allows for ultimate control on descents.

All-City A.C.E. Air-Hardened, custom extruded steel frame with Signature dropouts, brazed-on seat collar, custom head badge and custom tapered headtube with external headset
Painted to match Whisky No.9 thru axle fork with carbon blades, tapered carbon steerer tube and post mount disc brake
Frame is E.D. coated for durability & rust prevention
Thru-axle dropouts, rear flat mount disc brake and Di2 internal cable ports
Front & rear fender mounts, two water bottle cage mounts and pump peg
Tire clearance: 700c x 35mm w/o fenders, 32mm w/fenders

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Robin
Robin
5 years ago

This is the first All-City bike that really appeals to me. A frame set weight would be nice.

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Jim Cravelli
Jim Cravelli
5 years ago

Looks great AC but $4K ??? Also, c’mon, 35 is a deal breaker now a days imo. Will 38s fit or not? You can fit 35s on a Mr Pink. And people questioning less than a centimeter bottom bracket height… You wont even notice the difference!

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Jim Cravelli

35mm clearance for a road bike a deal breaker?! Pardon my pffft, but pffft!

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Left Handed Surprise
Left Handed Surprise
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Yeah, it’s still truly marketed as their road bike, but with 35s you can ride gravel easily. If you want more rubber, get a Cosmic Stallion.

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Jim Cravelli
Jim Cravelli
5 years ago
Reply to  Left Handed Surprise

Well… Its their “all-day” road bike. Why not make it fit 38s max??? My mr pink fits 35s, so yeah, I dont need a disc mr pink that fita the same size tires but costs $4K!

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Jim Cravelli

So you’re not in the market for a new bike but feel the need to flame a BR comment section on a new AC release? …strange.

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mpulsiv
mpulsiv
5 years ago
Reply to  Jim Cravelli

My 52cm Mr. Pink clears 38mm Panaracer GravelKing non-SK (slicks) just fine. They measure exact 38mm wide on 19mm wide rim. As a matter of fact, fork can swallow 40mm.
All-City is conservative about tire clearance. Zig Zag can swallow 40mm just fine.

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Bob
Bob
5 years ago

I would very much like to know the 650b tire clearance.

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Mike A
Mike A
5 years ago

This is basically a $4k disc brake Mr Pink, change my mind.
Also probably wouldn’t feel so snarky if it wasn’t for the whole $4k thing.
Both paint jobs are pretty sexy.

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Fred
Fred
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

There is a $2,600 105 build as well. Did I “Change your mind”?

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Mike A
Mike A
5 years ago
Reply to  Fred

Nah, that actually stings a bit more. I don’t know many messengers that can afford a $2.6K 105 bike.

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

Is this a bike that is even remotely marketed to the messenger crowd? Seems to be a lot of confusion here in the BR comment section tonight. You’re looking for a Big Block and Jim Cravelli is yearning the bigger tire clearance for a Cosmic Stallion. These bikes already exist you weirdos! Twilight Zone sh*t goin’ on here, yo.

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Mike A
Mike A
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Oh, you’re right, silly me. They only use messengers for a bunch of their photo ops and literally sponsor messengers, none of which whom I’ve met had a Big Block.

I’m not hating, just bumming on that slow creep in price. I’m getting a vibe you work for Q or something.

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

Oh, hell no! … work for Q!?! Thanks for the speculation but no, my minimum wage years were a lifetime ago. If I got a dime for every person that complained about the price of bike stuff on this site I could retire tomorrow.

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Jim Cravelli
Jim Cravelli
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Thanks impulsov

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

Mike A, while both share similar geometries but the tube set is entirely different. When this bike arrives at your local dealer take the Pepsi challenge and and compare the two. Sure, both are steel I bet you come away thinking the Mr. Pink is a boat anchor after riding the Ziggy. I had a similar experience comparing a Macho Man to a Cosmic Stallion last year, which the same tubing comparison as we have with these.

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Jim Cravelli
Jim Cravelli
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Are you saying that AC “ace” tubing has that much effect over columbus zona? Or is it the carbon wheels w thru axles? Just wondering

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Jim Cravelli

Yes, it’s the tube set. Carbon fork and wheels definitely improve road feel and shave weight. However, thru axles have no bearing over straight line ride feel. Lateral forces from sprinting and climbing and brake forces.. yeah sure, thru axles for the win. So the Cosmic Stallion I tested against my Macho Man had the same aluminum WTB wheels, the only real differentiators was tube set the the fork and it was like night and day. I’ve had plenty of Zona built bikes over the years and it’s decent mid grade, cheap, nothing to write home about tubing. In fact I’m selling a Zona built frame as I type this. I may get $200 for it. It’s a similar quality, weight, and ride feel to Reynolds 631. However A.C.E. is definitely more in the high end lightweight realm. Think Columbus Spirit or Reynolds 853. I would even put up an argument that A.C.E. has the Cadillac ride quality over rough roads and gravel as does Reynolds 753, but in a much lighter package.

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mpulsiv
mpulsiv
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

I’d love to know the weight of Zig Zag frame with A.C.E tubing. Assuming that A.C.E. tubing is more agile next to Zona tubing. My Mr. Pink is 2088 grams + 391 grams Whisky carbon fork (uncut). I expected heavy, ~1800 grams or so.

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Ves Mandaric
Ves Mandaric
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

@K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Tell me more about those “miracle” tubing. If you have any info at all.

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Ves Mandaric

There are many different grades of steel tubing to fabricate a bicycle from. Apparently some who passed through here think there’s no difference between them, or can’t rationalize or justify the cost of the higher end. What more is there to say?… nada.

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Fred Gravelly
Fred Gravelly
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Kpop, you’re crazy!!! Lol!

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Mike A
Mike A
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Any chance you got weights and builds to throw around? My custom Mr Pink w/pedals is 21lbs even, and never feels heavy despite the weight. Also to be fair I did go and check out the specs on the website and carbon wheels do make the price a bit more competitive.

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K-Pop is dangerous to your health
K-Pop is dangerous to your health
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

The Cosmic Stallion I rode last year was 18lbs w/Foce 1x and WTB KOM wheels. I was riding sub 20lb road bikes 20 years ago, so I don’t know how excited I can get about the weight of a Mr. Pink. Aside from the fact that it’s a great value.

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Mike A
Mike A
5 years ago
Reply to  K-Pop is dangerous to your health

Cool, sounds about right. I wasn’t bragging about weight, more pointing out my expectations for cost to weight ratio.

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Craig
Craig
5 years ago
Reply to  Mike A

For that $4k you get carbon wheels, too.

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DeeKeezy
DeeKeezy
5 years ago

Agree that this looks great, but I can’t see choosing it over a MUSA Gunnar frame that costs less/the same and offers more color choices.

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threeringcircus
threeringcircus
5 years ago
Reply to  DeeKeezy

I’d rather have a Gunnar, too, if it was at comparable cost. But Roadie Disc frames start at $1350–which is frame only, no fork.

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DeeKeezy
DeeKeezy
5 years ago
Reply to  threeringcircus

I stand corrected! That makes this a bike to keep in mind, then.

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Babyshark.kingslayer.420
Babyshark.kingslayer.420
5 years ago

Oh man, great comment section. Funny AND informative. Mr Pink owner here.. currently set up for glossy legged fulz gaz prescription T group rides. I’ve considered high end Ti disc next, but now I don’t have to!! I can use the extra 2k for one maap/rapha/pns/attaquer neck warmer.

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Jim A
Jim A
4 years ago

I love All City. I own a Big Block. But $4K for a bike with a steel frameset?

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