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1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed M5100/M4100 groups

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Shimano heard you like options, so they’re bringing the full spread for the newest Deore generation. In addition to the premium level Deore M6100 12 speed group, Shimano is also adding 1x and 2x groups in both 10 speed and 11 speed versions. Importantly, none of these options require a Micro Spline freehub in spite of offering wide range 1x cassettes, making Shimano 1x drivetrains more affordable than ever.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups 1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

Split between the 11 speed Deore M5100 group and the 10 speed Deore M4100 group, there are four different build combinations – though there are a few parts that are shared between the different configurations.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

At the crankset, both the M4100 and M5100 groups use the same FC-M5100 10/11 speed crankset. These use a 52mm chainline and 30 and 32t single chainrings, or 22-36t 2x chainrings. Compatible with both 10 and 11 speed drivetrains, the cranks will also work with 135 and 142mm QR spaced frames and 142 an 148mm spaced thru axle frames.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups 1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

There are four different cassettes offered, two each for 10 & 11 speed. The 5100 11 speed cassettes come in 11-42t Rhythm Step for 1×11 or 2×11, and a true wide range 11-51t for 1x only.

The 10 speed 4100 cassettes are offered in 11-42 Rhythm Step for 1×10 or 2×10, and an 11-46t wide range cassette for 1×10. Note that all of these use the standard Shimano HG freehub body for wide compatibility – but that’s the reason for the loss of the 10t cassette and extra gears.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

Only the M5100 1 x 11 group will need a specific derailleur – the RD-M5100. This allows for up to a 51t maximum cog and offers clutched Shadow RD+ tech you’ll find on more expensive derailleurs.

Then there are two separate 10/11 speed rear derailleurs in the RD-M5120 and RD-M4120. The 5120 offers Shadow RD+ tech, while the 4120 uses standard Shadow tech (no clutch). The 5120 also clears up to a 46t maximum cog, compared to the 4120 which will only clear a 42t. Both derailleurs will work with 10 or 11 speed drivetrains, so you can choose the derailleur based on the maximum tooth size you’ll need.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

Since the front derailleur is not dead with these two groups, new FD-M5100 and FD-M4100 front derailleurs will be offered in various frame fitments. Note that the cage width is different for 10 & 11 speed so you’ll need the proper front derailleur.

Both 5100 and 4100 groups also use existing 10 and 11 speed chains.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups 1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

And of course there are a bunch of different shifter options for 1x and 2x, with and without the shift indicator pods, and band clamp or I-SPEC EV.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

Finally, a new BL-M4100 non-series brake lever has been introduced that will pair with existing calipers. Add it to the BR-MT410 2 piston caliper to make the updated MT410 brake, or the BR-MT420 4 piston caliper to make the MT420 brake. The lever features new architecture and is I-SPEC EV compatible.

1x or 2x, Shimano Deore also gains new wide range options in 10 & 11 speed groups

Confused about all the different options? Don’t worry, it’s a lot. Fortunately, Shimano put together this handy flow chart to help make sense of it all. If the part numbers are connected with a dotted white line, they’re inter-compatible. It also gives you an idea of what parts you’ll need to make a 1×12, 1×11, 2×11, 1×10 or 2×10 drivetrain.

Shimano Deore M5100 and M4100 components will be available in the following weeks, with pricing TBA.

bike.shimano.com

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Me
Me
4 years ago

Already bought it for half off.

ttxxdd
ttxxdd
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

where

IzzyM
IzzyM
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

Nice

uyong choi
uyong choi
4 years ago
Reply to  Me

where

luddite
luddite
4 years ago

shame there’s no 11sp 11-46 cassette.

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  luddite

There will soon be M5100 11s cassettes in 11-42 and 11-51. There’s no 11-46, but 11s is there and you could get the ratio you want by replacing the stock ring with a different-sized SLX, XT or XTR one.

toddster
toddster
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

I too like 11-46 for climbing with 27.5 wheels. Also existing slx only goes up to 46t so you would have to buy a new derailleur assuming the spacing is the same. So thats a bit of a miss. But you may be able to just buy derailleur and cassette with existing shifter and save a few bucks.

Toddster
Toddster
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

forgot to add that with 30t I run out of top end on high speed sections but a 32t works.

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

The M4100 10s and M5100 11s groups will not have Hyperglide+, though, sadly.

markymark
markymark
4 years ago
Reply to  luddite

The 11-46 has existed at SLX and XT levels since the 11 speed update

Olaf
Olaf
4 years ago

Will there be new Boost hubs in the Deore Group? I need both a 15 x 110 TA front and a 141 QR rear hub.

Jan Sæther
Jan Sæther
4 years ago
Reply to  Olaf

From Bikeradar: “There’s the MT410, which is available for 142 or 148mm thru-axle spacing, and the MT401 for 135 or 141mm quick-release spacing.”

JNH
JNH
4 years ago

Silly as it sounds the dropper lever and those non-series brake levers are the most exciting things Shimano have come out with in years. Having access to a Shimano non-Servo Wave lever that doesn’t cost XTR money will be a Godsend. Paired with Saint/Zee calipers this could be the new Park Rat brake of choice.

Dominic
Dominic
4 years ago
Reply to  JNH

Stuck out for me too! The variability in the servowave mechanism has been driving me nuts lately on my Saints

Tim
Tim
4 years ago

Do these lower groups replace Alivio and Acera, or will those names/ groups continue to exist?

Greg
Greg
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim

I heard that Alivio and Acera will still exist, but their target will be different than it has been. What that is, I don’t know.

typevertigo
typevertigo
4 years ago
Reply to  Greg

Alivio stays on, still as a 9-speed transmission. It’s been revamped as well, but redesignated “M3100” instead of the “M4000” designation the previous generation got.

harley johnstone
harley johnstone
4 years ago

36×22 is the best gravel bike ratio.

James Mcculloch
3 years ago

can you use the 11-51 cassette with the 2x chain ring. i bought a group set that includes both and am wondering if i will need to but the 11-42 cassette considering I wanna run a 2x up-front? I contacted the seller and it shipped before I could request the 11-42 cassette. he said that it will work fine with the 11-51 but i have my reservations?

Jonah
Jonah
2 years ago

Is it possible to use M5100-1 Crankset with a 10 speed M4100-10 11-42 using the M4120 RD? Thanks

Jonah
Jonah
2 years ago

Thanks for the very informative article. I know its not in the flow chart, but can I use FC-M5100-1 crankset with M4100 11-42T cassette and M4120 RD? I just bought the cassette and RD now but I’m thinking about a 1x.

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