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Nukeproof Sam Hill Enduro Saddle offers ultra-low stack for improved standover

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Love it or hate it, oil slick is here to stay. Especially, as the rails on the new Sam Hill Enduro Saddle wear it proudly. Colorway aside, those rails have been adjusted so they now give an ultra-low stack height to allow Sam to make full use of the space for the longest travel dropper possible. Let’s take a closer look.

Nukeproof Horizon Sam Hill Enduro Saddle

early prototype testing 2019 sam hill enduro saddle signature series
A 2019 prototype of the Sam Hill Enduro Saddle

Sam Hill’s brief to the designers at Nukeproof was this. He wanted a 143mm width saddle with a short nose, a cut out to reduce pressure on contact points, no sharp edges and importantly, he wanted it to enable a low standover.

low saddle stack height enables full use of long travel dropper seat posts
Grey; original Horizon saddle rail position, Red; new Sam Hill Signature saddle rail position

For the latter requirement, Nukeproof needed to redesign the saddle rails to have a low stack height; approximately 8mm lower than standard rails. This would enable Sam to take full advantage of a long travel dropper post.

sam hill signature series horizon enduro saddle runs oil slick rails

Sam Hill’s signature saddle runs oil slick rails to match the rest of his Signature Series of Horizon components.

nukeproof horizon saddle developed with sam hill for ews racing

The Horizon Enduro saddle is, for all intents and purposes, the same saddle. It runs CrMo Ti rails and has a glass-fibre reinforced nylon base. The cover is a durable vacuum formed microfiber material that is water repellent. The padding is a lightweight air-form foam.

Pricing & Availability

The new Sam Hill Enduro Saddle will be in stores from September 17th and will set you back £80.

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blahnblahblah
blahnblahblah
3 years ago

stack height makes no difference to standover height

Mark MTR
Mark MTR
3 years ago
Reply to  blahnblahblah

Cycling industry is coming up with funny arguments to sell components these days. They change standards much faster than in the past telling big stories, but we all know it is just to sell more. They make a component become totally obsolete in few years or months, just take the thru axle sizes as an example. Good old days when cycling pleasure was all about riding

Joenomad
Joenomad
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark MTR

There are plenty of variations of rail to saddle spacing from brand to brand and model to model. This isn’t a standard any more than using different material for the rails. If Sam Hill said that he needs more saddle drop, then his sponsoring brand is going to deliver.

blahblah1233445
3 years ago

It makes a difference when the dropper is completely down and You can stand above the saddle, instead of the top tube.

Dylan
Dylan
3 years ago

I don’t get it…this would only make a difference if your dropper is completely slammed in the frame. Maybe if you’re Sam Hill then Nukeproof design their frame sizes and post travel so this works for you, but most of us will be running at least a bit of post above the seat collar to get the saddle at the right height for pedalling when the post is extended.

GreenPlease
GreenPlease
3 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

A couple of droppers now allow you to use shims to reduce extension. So say you’d normally need 185mm of seatpost to get the right height. You buy a 200mm dropper and add 15mm of shins and then slam it flush in your ST.

Dustin
Dustin
3 years ago
Reply to  Dylan

I’ve got a bike with the stock 170mm dropper where I had to switch from the stock Fizik saddle to my preferred WTB Silverado to get the seat low enough to pedal with the post fully hilted.

blahblah1233445
3 years ago

Since the guy wanted low standover, that means he had problems while standing on the ground. Also – lower saddle can allow You to use a longer dropper, eg. 125mm is too short, but You can’t fit a 150mm, cause You’re lacking ~0,5cm in Your inseam and too high of a seatpost will bring You pain after longer use.

Chris
Chris
3 years ago

Looks like Sam Hill really likes the 143mm Specialized power saddle.

typevertigo
typevertigo
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris

First thing that came to mind for me, too.

I do think the saddle looks more like the Power Arc instead of the OG Power – mainly in terms of how the cutout is located and how much more of the nose isn’t part of it.

The lengthwise slope towards the nose looks a little gentler here than on the Power, too. On that saddle the slope tended to dump me towards the unpadded nose over time.

Tom
Tom
3 years ago

This totally reminds me of Spinal Tap – “this one goes to 11”

Caleb McCracken
Caleb McCracken
3 years ago

When are we gonna see pivotal in mtb???

captain derp
captain derp
3 years ago

unlikely, as you lose the fore/aft adjustment of the saddle, which is a lot less critical on BMX bikes.

draz
draz
1 year ago

It makes sense for some people. I have 170mm insertion length frame, Normally for 150mm dropper you need around 250mm insertion length to slammed all the way in. It is a problem for specific frame designs.

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