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Review: Framed Montana is more than a snow machine – it’s a trail eater

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The days are getting shorter, and the weather’s colder – winter has finally arrived. That can only mean one thing – time to bust out the fat bikes! Now, I’m usually a rider that keeps it rolling on my cross country bike until I absolutely need to change to a fatter tire, but this season presented some challenges along with some opportunities. The opportunity to ride around on something different, something crazy-fun, and a hell of a workout – the new Framed Montana.

Framed Montana Review driveside

The Framed brand is no stranger to adverse riding conditions – based in Minneapolis, Minnesota – they know what can survive in real snow, and gear that only appears that it will. The feeling of riding one of these four-inch tire beasts around your local trails will change your viewpoint and can rekindle your love of an over-sessioned spot.

Framed Montana Review Full bike Snow

Now a full-suspension fat bike is something that seems excessive, but once you ride it, you’ll be hard-pressed to find a bike more confidence-inspiring. The Montana boasts a fairly aggressive geometry for a fat bike with a 68.5° headtube and a 73.5° seat tube angle – more aggressive than some cross country machines out there. I went with the 17″ frame out of the three sizes available. Framed claims the 17″ will fit anyone from 5’7″-5’11”, and I agree. The sloping top tube allows for easy on and off – whether dismounting or falling in the fresh powder. The Montana’s wheelbase is shorter than some hardtail fat bikes measuring 1142mm with 461mm chainstays.

Framed Montana Review Geometry

Notable Montana Geometry specs

The Framed Montana is available in 15″,17″ (Tested), and 19″sizes.

  • Effective Top Tube: 59cm
  • Headtube Angle: 68.5°
  • Seattube Angle: 73.5°
  • Chainstay length: 461mm
  • Wheelbase: 1142mm
  • Bottom Bracket Drop: 24mm
  • Headtube: 120mm
  • Standover: 800mm
  • Reach: 711mm
  • Weight: 33.00 (w/o pedals)
  • Price: $2900.00 (alloy wheel option available)

Framed Montana Review rear SRAM Eagle

Notable Framed Montana specs:

  • Frame: Framed High-Modulus Carbon Fiber Frame 177×12. Integrated headset, two water bottle cage mounts, internal cable/housing routing, and quick release thru-axle rear.
  • Fork: RockShox Bluto 150x15mm
  • Rear Shock: RockShox Monarch RT3 100mm travel
  • Wheels: PUB Carbon 27.5″ with DT Swiss Hub 150/15mm, 177/12mm
  • Tires: Maxxis Minion 27.5 x 3.8in – tubeless
  • Shifter/Derailleurs: SRAM GX Eagle 12 speed
  • Cassette: SRAM GX Eagle PG 10-50
  • Crankset: SRAM X1 30t – 175mm
  • Brakeset: SRAM Level T hydraulic disc, 160mm rotors (F/R)
  • Handlebar: Framed All Mountain Aluminum Alloy 760mm/31.8
  • Stem: Framed 60mm – 31.8mm
  • Seat Post: PUB Carbon 2-bolt 31.6

Framed Montana Review

The Frameset

The Montana frame is high-modulus carbon, with minimal ports underneath for mud and slop to penetrate. It runs a 177x12mm rear that keeps the rear clearance tight for leg and heel strike while keeping the crankset Q-Factor manageable. The downtube is a triangle shape (I dare not say aero) and resembles the Cervelo “Squoval” tubing. The top tube is much slimmer in comparison, showcasing the performance nature Framed was aiming for.

Framed Montana down tube and shock

The frameset is 1x specific with internal dropper post routing and a threaded bottom bracket. Near the crankset, all the cables neatly run out from three internal ports to the rear derailleur and brake caliper. The design is clean and the housing is easy to run/service when needed. Running a 1x specific frameset allows Framed to get as much clearance for the tires as possible and keeps the handling tight. It’s hard to hide such a big tire, but Framed achieves a tight wheelbase and shorter chainstays with this method. The suspension needs are carried out by a RockShox Bluto 100mm (150X15mm) in front and 100mm from a RockShox Monarch RT3 in the rear. While any fat bike is more than just a sand or snow bike, adding full suspension really opens up the bike’s abilities for more technical terrain and higher speeds.

Framed Montana Review Rear linkage shock

The drivetrain; a SRAM GX Eagle rear derailleur, shifter, and 10-50T cassette, paired with a SRAM X1 30T crankset is a combination of cost-effective and practical. The combination of the 30T chainring and the 10-50T cassette give the rider more than enough options for the low and high-end gearing. SRAM takes care of the stopping duties as well, with SRAM Level T brakes paired with 160mm rotors (front and rear). I was surprised that the front rotor wasn’t 180mm considering Montana’s mass, but the Level T’s are reliable and perform well in all conditions.

Framed picked components that would help Montana perform up to standard but not burden the price in such a way that makes it unattainable. In shifting performance, the SRAM GX Eagle is precise and carries many sensations from the top tier Eagle lines – with minimal cost. Plus, low replacement cost for components can be key for a Fat bike because we all know, you’re eventually gonna take a tumble in the snow – hopefully not on the expensive side (not to mention winter conditions can be very hard on drivetrain durability).

Framed Montana Review Framed handle bars

The bars, stem, and seat post are all Framed’s in-house brand and performed well. I’m impressed with the carbon seatpost from PUB, it’s light and aesthetically similar to an Easton EC90, showing they can run with the pack on carbon components.

The Ride

A bike like this, you really can’t ride without a smile. It’s carbon, it’s fast, it’s a blast on trails and fresh powder. My first rides were all about dialing it in. I was concerned that adjustments to the bike would be lost through the big tires. But I found that I could dial this bike nearly everywhere though; fork, rear suspension, and I could feel the changes, even with the voluminous tires.

Framed Montana Review fork DT Big Ride Hub

The novelty of the big tires and squish wore off around my third ride, and I started connecting with the Montana as a performance bike. It could handle rocks and roots much better than I thought, and I found myself favoring it when going on a hard day out. The carbon PUB wheels help the Montana climb well and keep the machine’s overall weight down.

Framed Montana Review Front Wheel

My favorite terrain for the Montana has to be fast flowing sections of trail with plenty of driving sections. The bike carries speed and rolls over the trail like a steam roller, but the nimble feeling of the front end and superb grip of the tires really allows you to lean the bike over. Sometimes it felt like riding a dirtbike through the woods, with the tire knobs cracking audibly over the roots descending switchbacks.

Framed Montana Review Cable junction

After many rides on the Montana I appreciate the setup and stiff pedaling platform. Putting power on the pedals moves the bike forward efficiently with no notable flex or squirm in the frame. The frame is smooth and has no ice shelves, the sloppy snow falls right off – no pockets for it to sit and freeze in. The 27.5×3.8 tires have some wiggle room in the frame and allow for snow to quickly clear when you’re blazing fresh powder.

Framed Montana Review Rear tIres detail

My only complaint on the Montana would be the clamp size of the bars and the need for a dropper post. The bars that come stock are standard 31.8mm and felt a bit noodly at times with the bike’s weight and grip from the front tire. A 35mm bar seems like it would add some precision to the steering, especially driving through downhill rock gardens. The carbon seatpost is nice, but it really does nothing for performance or weight for that matter.

A dropper from the gate would be a great touch – though, you can add one while customizing your bike on the Framed site. The Montana’s ride is somewhere between an enduro bike and fat bike – super capable and confidence-inspiring. A dropper would really add to that enduro vibe and allow the rider to have much more control of the bike on super steep sections of trail.

Framed Montana Review Rear Linkage full

Fat bikes are mainly thought of as “snow bikes,” my time on the Framed Montana changed my thinking. Though bikes like this excel in the snow, they are much more capable than a singular season. The suspension and horst linkage setup let the Montana sing on rock gardens and feature-heavy sections of trail. The 100mm of front suspension feels bottomless with the wide tires, and the RockShox Monarch’s many settings allow for efficient, bob-free pedaling uphills.

Framed Montana Review Shock settings

My time on the Framed Montana changed my views on what a full-suspension fat bike is and who rides them. This is a bike that can ride nearly everything, snow, trail, sand, and roads (slowly), and is very fun even for a “no-fun-all-intervals” rider. For someone looking for a bike that sticks out in the crowd and gives an extra boost in confidence, the Montana is worth checking out – especially for fans of the Salsa Bucksaw who are bummed that is has been discontinued.

The Montana spec is spectacular for the price, and the ride will definitely put a smile on your face. You can customize the build kit to fit your ride needs and budget all with the same carbon frameset as your canvas.

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Smokestack
Smokestack
3 years ago

The Geo chart is incorrect. No bike I know of has a 711mm reach figure, much less across their entire size range.

OriginalMV
OriginalMV
3 years ago
Reply to  Smokestack

I’ve noticed some errors in the geometry charts of their other models as well.

Patrick
Patrick
3 years ago
Reply to  OriginalMV

I bought a Framed Alaskan this year and took my own measurements. A bit was off. Not to mention they sent the wrong frame color (and won’t correct it), the wrong sized rear thru axle, and the rear RD was set up incorrectly.

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Tstyles747@gmail.com
3 years ago

The days are actually getting longer…

Onrhodes
3 years ago

I am and will always be a fat bike advocate. I just don’t get why you’d go with 177 rear. 197 is far more common. I know that 177 isn’t too hard to get but pretty much all the major players (Salsa, Trek, Specialized, Cannondale, etc) are making 197 rears.

Zach Overholt
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Onrhodes

Great question. 177 offers a narrower rear end, so for a rear triangle that moves with the suspension, it could have been chosen to ensure clearance as it moves through the travel. Generally, with 177 you can usually get away with a narrower q-factor (though the specific q-factor isn’t mentioned here). On the other hand, 197mm is better for building bigger tire clearance into the frames (think up to 5″ tires, and smaller tires on wider rims). But if you’re sticking with 4″ tires, or can work with the frame material around the chainstay area, you can definitely get away with 177 for better heel clearance and a lighter bike. I think overall, it’s probably easier for companies to build a bike with 197mm to ensure proper tire clearance, but it can result in bikes with uncomfortable q-factors which would detract from a bike like this that is better suited to fast pedaling.

Greg
Greg
3 years ago

If the bar feels flexible, it’s because it was designed that way. Just get a stiffer 31.8 bar. They can be made as stiff as you want. 35mm clamps do nothing.

craigmedred
3 years ago

“I was surprised that the front rotor wasn’t 180mm considering Montana’s mass?” so how the hell much does it weigh? my 23-pound fatbike is about 10 percent of the mass of rider, bike and equipment at 215 pounds total. at what point does the weight of the bike and/or my butt get to the point i need 180s?

Ol' Shel'
Ol' Shel'
3 years ago
Reply to  craigmedred

Doesn’t it make sense to have a stronger brake up front so that it takes equal lever pressure L/R to achieve maximum framing F/R? It always made sense to me. 160 front rotors seem best suited to weight-weenies, flatlanders, and light people with unusually strong fingers.

Skeen
Skeen
3 years ago

Sounds like a fun bike. I’d love to know weight and maximum tire width!

Zach Overholt
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeen

The weight is there in the specs: 33lbs without pedals. We’ll see if we can dig up max tire size. My guess is 4.0″ in the back, but there is a lot of variance in the 27.5″ fat bike tire sizing, particularly in height. So depending on the rim and tire combo you use it will likely vary.

Skeen
Skeen
3 years ago
Reply to  Zach Overholt

Thanks! I’m currently on a Minnesota frame from 2016, and still loving it.

Jordan Villella
3 years ago
Reply to  Zach Overholt

After reaching out, Framed confirmed that a 4.50″ will fit – depending on the width of the rim. The 3.8″ tires on the bike currently have much more room than the photos show.

Skeen
Skeen
3 years ago

Nice clearance! Makes me wish I was in the market for a new fat bike. For now I’ll be happy with my rigid. Next fatty will likely be another Framed regardless of suspension type (or lack thereof) I decide to go with.

Tom
Tom
3 years ago

I’m new to the fat bike world, but this seems like a lot of bike for the $$$!

IzzyM
IzzyM
3 years ago

711-mm reach??? Across all frame sizes?

WhateverBikes
3 years ago

I’m wondering what kind of pedals are on this bike. No picture shows them very clearly, but from what can be seen of them, they look… weird?

Skeen
Skeen
3 years ago

Looks like some kind of spd’s but pedals don’t usually come with bikes so that probably why no specific type was mentioned.

Derron Tanner
Derron Tanner
3 years ago

Looks like they sold out of them or something because you can no longer find the Montana on their website. Shame too, because I was really thinking about getting one.

Paul
Paul
2 years ago

I’m on the fence between the 17″ and 19″ frame. I’m 5’9″ and usually ride a medium, but the 19″ frame has specs similar to my bikes. Anyone have experience with the frame fit relative to your height?

Thanks!

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