We know, there’s no such thing as a stupid question. But there are some questions you might not want to ask your local shop or riding buddies. AASQ is our weekly series where we get to the bottom of your questions – serious or otherwise. This time we discuss proportional (and non-proportional) length chainstays! Hit the link at the bottom of the post to submit your own question.
This week, we’re answering a reader’s poignant question on mountain bike frame design, specifically concerning chainstay length. The “optimum” chainstay length has been a hotly debated topic since… the beginning of time?
While the vast majority of frame manufacturers run the same chainstay length across their complete XS-XL frame size range, others are proponents of proportional length chainstays; increasing length in accordance with the increasing size of the front triangle. As mentioned by our reader, Norco are one such example.
To dig deeper into this aspect of frame design, we’ve recruited the following brands to contribute to this weeks Ask A Stupid Question on the very topic:
- RAAW: Proportional Stays
- Nukeproof: Non-Proportional Stays
- Norco: Proportional Stays
- Privateer: Proportional Stays
- Cotic: Non-Proportional Stays
- Santa Cruz: Some bikes have proportional length chainstays, and some bikes don’t
Fixed versus Proportional Length Chainstays
QUESTION: A few brands like Norco increase the length of the chain stays as you go up through the frame sizes. It seems to make good sense but not many manufacturers are doing this, I guess because it costs more money to produce more swing arms. Aside from cost, is there any good reason NOT to alter chain stay length proportional to a frame’s reach figures?
Nukeproof: This is a tricky one and we have been thinking a lot about this subject. So, up until recently, the trend was to have short chainstays. Nukeproof never went too short because we like the stability and balanced grip that a non-short chainstay gives.

If we go longer we will have up to 450mm/460mm chainstay lengths. But, to date, taller riders have not been asking for longer chainstays. Adding length will affect the playfulness and manual-ability. Also, riders naturally centre themselves between the front and rear axle possibly reducing the need for proportional chainstay lengths.
For example, if you jump from a bike with 550mm chainstays to the same bike with 440mm chainstays, the rider will swear the bike is smaller.

One advantage for longer chainstay lengths is climbing ability. If your saddle height is high and rearward your bike will want to wheelie on steep climbs. But, our new steeper saddle offset positions are designed to keep the rider balanced during seated climbing.
Privateer: Thanks for the question. Proportional geometry is something we strongly believe in, and is core to our product development. We feel how a bike rides is heavily swayed by the ratio of front centre to rear centre weight bias. Whilst we are still debating what the ‘correct’ ratio is, keeping it as close as possible throughout the size range ensures that every rider, regardless of height, gets the same ride experience.










- Seb Kemp, Brand Manager of Santa Cruz Bicycles
- Sam Meegan, Brand Manager of Privateer Bikes
- Dale McMullan, Engineer at Nukeproof
- Cy Turner, founder of Cotic
- Ruben Torenbeek, founder of RAAW