Shimano has two all-new XT & Saint platform pedals that take inspiration from the original Saints, but cut out tons of material to shed weight without sacrificing grip or durability. Both concave pedals share the same octagonal layout with 10 main pins per side, but the Saints are even lighter than the XTs thanks to a combination of carbon composite and forged aluminum construction…

Shimano lightweight XT & Saint gravity MTB platform pedals

Shimano lightweight XT & Saint gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, pair

We’ll start off with the fact that Shimano rolled these out quietly without much fanfare on their website this week, because it will be until early next year that they’ll show up in your local bike shop. But with such a major departure from the current blocky alloy platform pedals in Shimano’s serious mountain bike line-up, we just couldn’t resist…

New lightweight Shimano Saint composite flat pedals

Shimano lightweight Saint gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, M829 angled

Most interesting of the two are the new PD-M829 Saint flat pedals, built for everything from DH racing to aggressive trail riding. They share a wide, 8-sided outer profile and body inset to extend the pedal platform all the way to the crankarm like the current M828 Saint pedals, but the similarities stop there.

Shimano lightweight Saint gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, M829 detail

Now the new Saint pedal features a thin forged alloy (shiny polished silver AND the black under ‘INT’ which seems to be the same alloy finish as the XT pedals) body with connecting webs, sandwiched inside a ‘carbon composite resin’ element that wraps over the front, rear, and outside of the pedal. Shimano calls it a ‘carbon skid plate’ for the thin aluminum body, designed to slip & slide over rocks on the trail.

Shimano says the new Saint DH pedals offer ‘best-in-class grip’ with 10 traction pins around the perimeter, 4 more optional pins in the middle, and a thin double-concave design. The 121mm long x 110mm wide Saint pedals are 16.1mm thick at the front & rear edges, 13.9mm thick at the inside & outside, and just 11.6mm thin in the middle.

Shimano lightweight Saint gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, M829 top

Shimano Saint platform pedals, PD-M829

The new pedals spin on chromloy axles, and at least an inner bushing. It’s not clear if they use an outer bearing, but Shimano calls the axle assembly sealed.

Claimed weight for the new Saint M829 pedals is just 397g, a full 156g lighter than the bulky current M828 Saints. Shimano says they will ship with both 3mm & 6mm pin sets, and the pedals are installed with a 8mm hex (no external wrench flats.)

New lightweight Shimano XT alloy flat pedals

Shimano lightweight XT gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, PD-M8141 angled

The new M8141 XT pedals share the same general layout as the Saints, but stick with a simpler one-piece forged aluminum construction for enduro and aggressive trail riding. You again get the octagonal shape, with crossing webs for support.

Shimano lightweight XT gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, PD-M8141 top

Shimano XT platform pedals, PD-M8141

The XTs also feature a thin double-concave design 17.5mm front/back, 17.2mm side/side & 13.3mm in the middle, and they share the same durable chromoly axle with new ‘bushing construction’. XTs also get the same 10 outer pin placement, plus 2 more optional inboard pins, as well.

The all-alloy XT M8141 platform pedals still weigh just 428g, a savings of 78g over the bulky current M8140 XTs (and 31g heavier than the new Saints.)

Shimano lightweight XT & Saint gravity enduro freeride DH mountain bike platform pedals, flat pedal sole

Shimano hasn’t given us any other details on pricing and availability, beyond expectations that mountain bikers should be able to their feet on the new pedals in Spring 2022.

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16 comments

  1. Ol' Shel' on

    I always appreciated that Shimano’s flats, although a bit bulky, retained the durability of full bearings. i hope that their bushings are at least replaceable, and that this isn’t a case of “you maintain them by buying new ones”.

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    • Charlie on

      Similar to a Fox fork dropout. Enables you to set the bearing preload and fix the nut in place without using a second nut and widening the pedal body.

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    • gregoryvanthomas on

      They’ve been using composites forever. They just don’t stick the material anywhere willy nilly. Most of their road pedals went to composite bodies a while ago. Their large chainrings have had the hollow composite and aluminum chainrings for a long time as well.

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      • Seraph on

        Shimano had carbon cranks back with 10-speed Dura Ace. Apparently they couldn’t figure them out because every single one I’ve seen was broken. Makes sense why they stick to aluminum for most of their high-stress components.

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  2. BMX on

    unknown performance advantage, non recyclable material. possibly cheaper to produce. Not sure this is a step in the right direction

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  3. typevertigo on

    The pedal and spindle design does make me wonder how these are serviced. The gold 17 mm wrench flats that used to be on the OG Saint PD-MX80 pedals, as well as the Deore XT PD-T780s, aren’t present on these new pedals.

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    • Dylan Sutton on

      Looks like on the Saints you might be able to remove the composite part of the pedal body after unscrewing the pins, giving access to the outer bushing or bearing. Presumable there would need to be a mechanism to adjust preload hidden under there, which could be a similar clocking mechanism to the XT’s, but simply keyed onto the composite body. A bit of a PITA to have to unscrew all those pins, but as long as the bearing at the crank end is well sealed you shouldn’t have to do it too often.

      At least being Shimano, if it’s at all serviceable the manuals will be published when these are actually available to buy.

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      • typevertigo on

        Good eye on the Saints. That could work.

        By comparison, the XT pedals certainly look more conventional in how they’d come apart for servicing, just with a locking nut/mechanism at the outboard end one would undo.

        But yeah, agreed on waiting for release and the accompanying manuals.

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  4. Dimitris on

    I have bought two beautiful flat pedals made from aluminium, titanium shaft and carbon fiber shell. Just 200 grams and 30 euros. What is the reason to buy Shimano pedals?

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  5. Vissile on

    There are components where carbon makes sense, and components where it does not.

    There are companies who use carbon regardless because it’s easy to market, and there are companies who will use the best material for the application.

    There are also companies out there who started the 35mm bar trend just because “bigger is better”. and there are companies who resist following the 35mm trend for the longest time because they were way too stiff and uncomfortable to ride, but ended up making one anyways because everyone wanted the latest trendy bars.

    Examples
    Stems – they are just better made out of aluminium. There aren’t many high end carbon stems, and the ones that are out there aren’t actually much lighter than aluminium (if they’re lighter at all).

    Cranks – how many carbon cranks have the pedal thread insert strip out of the crank? This just doesn’t happen with aluminium cranks because it’s all made out of the same material.

    I also recall something about Niner switching from carbon suspension links to alloy for one of their bikes because they could make them lighter and stiffer out of aluminium.

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