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Back in March, AASQ #67 focused on oval chainrings. It included responses from WTC, absoluteBLACK, OneUp, and Rotor. But for Rotor’s Co-Founder Pablo Carrasco, the answers would need more space. A lot more space.

With 25 years of experience, along with being Rotor’s co-founder, Pablo is the current R&D manager with a background in aeronautical engineering. Everything below is directly from Pablo, and covers the theory and application of ovoid chainrings.

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From Pablo Carrasco/Rotor:

For a chainring, whichever shape non-round is usually called OVAL. Here we are going to call them “OVOID”, a term that includes the ellipse, the oval, and those with more complex shapes as it’s the case of Osymetric. In general, these chainrings work like having different chainring size along with the complete pedal revolution to adapt the effective leverage of the machine to the geometrical disposition on your legs at that pedal position, and in general, reducing the leverage near the dead spots and of course, making it bigger in between them.

OVOID Chainrings are mostly characterized by having 2 parameters: stretching ratio or OVALITY, which generally it can be defined by [1-DMAX/DMIN]% , and ORIENTATION, which some brands call “timing” or “clocking” defined by the clockwise angle formed between DMAX and the crankarms.

Even for the biggest fan of OVOID chainrings, ORIENTATION is a crucial factor, so much that it is a much better option to use ROUND chainrings than using a wrong ORIENTATION when using OVOIDs.

Due to the obviousness of the effect of Dead Spots, they have been present in cycling History, for more than 150 years, but until recent years, not having, in general, any approximately proper ORIENTATION which could result in a good performance. Right now, in the market we could say that exist 3 families:

  • Osymetric: having big OVALITY and noticeably short ORIENTATION
  • ROTOR Q-Rings: moderate in OVALITY and customizable on ORIENTATION, having multiple marks with OCP values around one most preferred value called OCP#3
  • OTHERS (like absoluteBlack, Wolf Tooth, OneUp, and many others): all of them with remarkably close OVALITY and ORIENTATION values as a Q-Ring at OCP#3

The first two brands have been collecting huge success in racing along the past 15 years:

– Osymetric mainly in big Tours and TT races, and this is surely based in its unique ORIENTATION which increasing leverage too soon in the downstroke, is only useful for those riders who push on the pedals earlier than the average. And having more OVALITY, the ORIENTATION factor becomes even more important.

– ROTOR Q-Rings in all kinds of races and disciplines, at ROAD, MTB, TRIATHLON, CX… (and even HANDBIKE): Olympics, World Championships, big Tours… Climbing, Sprinting, or at TT. And for these results, different kinds of ORIENTATIONS have been used.

Then, are OVOID chainrings beneficial?

There are not scientific conclusions, but here it is a fact: having a smaller gear at the dead spots and a bigger gear when the cyclist applies more torque, modulates the output, the force you put on the wheel, making it more even for improved traction. This is just Geometry, Mathematics and Physics.

Therefore, there is a benefit on slippery conditions which is an advantage in MTB, GRAVEL, or CX. Furthermore, the more even tension on the chains could improve the chain’s life span.

Another typical benefit is about knee health or comfort in case of the upper dead spot is hurting your knee…

There are not too much published about this last point, but same as shifting soften those moments of big efforts at joints or muscles, when using OVOID, if the ORIENTATION is correct, the resulting modulation of the effective gear, make pedaling more comfortable, especially at the knee joint for applying torque to the wheel.

Reducing the effective chainring size at the dead spots helps to soften tension at the knee when it is at its maximum flexion, bringing the logical benefit… but if ORIENTATION is wrong and the biggest leverage (and resistance) appears, for example, too late in the downstroke, you will feel like “stepping in a hole” and another kind of knee pain will be generated, caused by the use of the OVOID chainrings (if you don’t correct that wrong ORIENTATION). It is not strange to read at different internet forums people who have found this kind of knee problems after using OVOID chainrings.

Then about performance, the only data we do have is a list of historic victories at the most important races… And considering that usually at the professional races roughly 1 to 3% of the cyclists are using OVOID the results are impressive. You could think it is because we the brands are paying to the best ones, but actually, only the Big Brands can do that, and they do it for ROUND…

We could consider the variation of the shape of the OVOID chainring (the same as a) shifting system, which in general in a vehicle is good because we can reduce or increase gear when we need it, mainly based on the speed, slope, and inertia. Therefore we can imagine a shifting timing “robot”, corresponding to that ORIENTATION, becoming a critical factor, based on the geometry of your legs, on your position on the bike, on the different inertias coming from your legs at a regular cycling cadence, but also on the inertia of the complete system [cyclist+bike]. Consider that, when pedaling, we are accelerating and decelerating the bike (with the cyclist) twice every pedal revolution. And it is mainly because this acceleration that the max leverage must be delayed regarding the position where max torque is located. If you are at a trainer, all the inertia of the system may vary significantly, which easily results in different ideal timing for this modulation of the instantaneous effective chainring size.

Given the same input, I cannot say at all that using one chainring with a different shape you are going to multiply your power output. In fact, in the tests we have carried out over the past 15 years, we have never found differences below the Threshold Power. It is from there when trying to reduce the suffering on the effort, any help coming from the use of an appropriate OVOID chainring might help the cyclist, for example by reducing the fatigue at the muscles’ fibers due to the smaller peak efforts, thanks to said modulation, or just by reducing pain or stress on the knees.

As an example, think about a cyclist riding a fixie and comparing him with his regular bike equipped with a shifting groupset. He does not have more power in his regular bike, but if the terrain is hilly, he will be able to ride with more comfortable cadences saving himself from some suffering, and at the end going faster, having, therefore, generated more power.

Other considerations could be done, and I would say, somehow must be done in the future: We are talking about marginal gains, that could be enough to differentiate the first guy in the podium from the other two, which normally would not have a clear statistical significance. Then, other parameters could be considered when you make the switch to OVOID: crank length, cleats position, saddle’s position (height and setback)…

There is one important consideration: when you are seated at the saddle, the pedaling circle itself is “ovalized” as a result of the ankle-play: you can soften the leverage at the beginning of the downstroke by flexing, and the opposite later by extension of the ankle, therefore varying the rotational speeds at your knees. When you pedal standing out of the saddle, the “ovalization” of the pedal revolution is even more exaggerated due to the balancing side to side of the bicycle, and the slight relative movement forwards and backward between the bike and the cyclist.

And it is due to the necessity of the ankle-play for what we have the “normal” cleat position in our cycling shoes. But remember that the insertions of the calves behind the knee joint result in a flexion force, while it is by the extension force of the knee when the main pedaling power is delivered by the quads, being therefore the ankle-play an antagonist work. By using OVOID chainrings, there is no need for such a big job for the calves with the ankle-play, allowing then to reduce this antagonist work looking for a marginal gain over there.

– Let me introduce my personal “biomechanics”: Due to some injury that happened last summer in my right knee, and after 2 recovery months, my balance dropped approximately from 50/50 to 67/33. The pain there has not disappeared, but right now I am using shorter cranks by 5mm and, changing my cyclist shoes (mid-sole solution by BIOMAC.biz), have the cleats placed much backward than whichever normal cyclist shoes allow for, and as a consequence, I have had to change the saddle position far downwards and a bit forward, resulting in a much better balance of 55/45.

What says “Science” about OVOID chainrings?

There are more than a few papers, but not at all any definitive conclusion…

We have for example this study, coming from the highest scientific level, called: “Noncircular Chainrings Do Not Influence Maximum Cycling Power” (Chee-Hoi Leong, Steven J. Elmer, and James C. Martin), but for this research, they used a completely out of range ORIENTATION value, so much that it was approx. -45° out… Imagine a World Cup race but our cyclists obliged to shift down before the uphill is coming, and to upshift before finishing the slope at the climbs… easily the conclusion could be that fixies are the best option for racing… Then, IMO, at least the title could have been less pretentious, because what they have demonstrated is that the Noncircular Chainrings don’t work with that particular ORIENTATION they have chosen for this study, which is out of the range of the tested products, and which looks like the static geometrical solution for the legs’ muscles, without considering their masses, the whole system masses neither all the accelerations involved.

Another study which some “conclusions” is a mathematical model called: “Comparative biomechanical study of circular and non-circular chainrings for endurance cycling at constant speed” (at www.noncircularchainring.be ) which solution supports a quite different ORIENTATION value (approx. -33° out) than the real world asks for: Remember that Q-Rings are adjustable (some of the models even along the 360°, 1 by 1 degree) and always the ORIENTATION average for the people using them is around OCP#3 (~110°), and that is the reason all the other brands (with fixed OCP due to ROTOR patents) use approximately this same orientation. Therefore, knowing this model is so different from the real pedaling experience, I assume that something really important is missing (as it could be to consider instantaneous “constant speed” which means no total inertia variations) and, as it is, same as the previously mentioned study, we should not consider its results.

There are many other studies, some showing slight improvements, and in the end, it is very difficult to have any significant conclusion, but usually, you can see that some of the subjects under the study have performed quite well using the OVOID chainrings. This could be explained because the chosen ORIENTATION for the study was the good one for their personal use (or maybe they can adapt faster than others to new biomechanics). The point to consider is that usually for these tests they never try to adapt the ORIENTATION to specific inertia of the lab braking system used as a bicycle, neither to adjust for each subject/cyclist with his individual preferred ORIENTATION… For example, would you make a research about using running shoes versus running barefoot for Athletes, if when testing the shoes all of them must be restricted to the same size? Then you would easily find that using running shoes is good for some but not for all, and you would never find statistical evidence to recommend their use.

How to know if your ORIENTATION is OK?

Of course, we can adapt to different race/pedaling conditions taking advantage of the ankle-play and shifting gears, but because the pedaling conditions are widely spread during a “race”, considering the range of useful cadences and different positions, more forward or backward in the saddle, or even out of the saddle, etc. only if we target it properly will have a really useful OVOID chainring.

ORIENTATION is a more critical parameter for ROAD racing than for MTB, in the same way as having a shorter gap between consecutive gears is a must for ROAD. For this last and considering the 15 years of experience in elite and professional racing I would say we have a reasonable range of ±2° for which we can use OVOID chainring with good results when for MTB it would be a wider range, let say something like ±4°.

The amplitude of these ranges is such that having only one and appropriate ORIENTATION option (the one that ROTOR names OCP #3) it can fit about 50% of the riders for ROAD and about 75% for MTB.

For example, imagine the ORIENTATION is too short, by just 4° (which for Q-Rings means that you are using 1 unit of OCP numbers under your best one…) Then, at a general pedaling pace, you were finding too much resistance very soon during every downstroke and losing acceleration ability, and for compensation of both, you would be correcting using ankle-play and shifting gear for reducing that bigger resistance by increasing cadence.

In the opposite, if your ORIENTATION is too long, you were finding too low resistance at the beginning of the downstroke and, at a normal cadence, having very good acceleration ability but difficulty to keep a high-speed pace, what could be the case of some comments like “stepping in a hole”… In this last case, you would be correcting using shifting for a bigger gear to increase the perceived resistance.

Therefore, it is reasonable to hear some people saying that the “oval”rings make you reduce the cadence, and vice versa, always depending on how well each OVOID is oriented for their particular biomechanics.

One quick check in order to see if your ORIENTATION is Ok, is when you pedal in the top of your range of cadence, because pedaling so fast you lose the ability, by using the ankle-play, to adapt to a non-optimal variable rotational speed: inherent to a non-best ORIENTATION of the ovoid shape of the ring, you would have a bumpy feeling as if the bike is jumping (following the alternating inertias of your legs).

Then, are we going to be faster by using OVOID chainrings?

Imagine, you have been with cyclists who nobody expects to win, following training sessions from the car, making tests with the Computrainer, designing and manufacturing the ring sizes they request, and looking for the best combination as it was not only ORIENTATION but crank length as well… We have been assisting riders for many years, and it is a fantastic experience when you go to whichever race… even the World Championships or the Tour de France, with just 1 cyclist using OVOIDS (Q-Rings in my case) who results to be the winner.

Later most of the time it has been not just 1 cyclist in the race using OVOID chainrings… and many more victories came. We could even enjoy at the Olympics, in the same race, gold, silver, and fourth place.

ROTOR has been sponsoring several Teams in which less than half of the riders were using Q-Rings, but they collected the big majority of the victories for the Team during the whole season.

Now more companies are pushing as well to be at the races, and whichever brand it could be, for those cyclists whose ORIENTATION is fine, by using OVOID chainrings, they are going to succeed. The confirmation is going to come.

For a more visual take on ovoid chainrings and how they relate to cycling biomechanics, Pablo sent over the PDF that’s linked below. Click to view in a new window. 


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Nelson Zornitta
Nelson Zornitta
3 years ago

Valuable information, additional parameters to be considered.


I am a former bike racer (co-founder of Webcor Professional Cycling Teams in early 2000s) and rode on Q rings extensively well over a decade ago for almost a year. I did experiment with OCP positioning extensively and did find they helped me especially in steady state riding (tempo rides + the sensation of climbing with slightly less effort). But thanks to having too many bikes, and retiring from bike racing, I decided to go back to round. Interestingly, I felt they assisted in rounding out my pedal stroke when going back to round rings. Having met Pablo at an Interbike many years ago, I will always be struck by his passion and belief in his invention! This letter/article certainly is welcome. Thanks for publishing it.

3 years ago

My head is spinning… no pun intended . But Rotor is a great, innovative, smart company with some really worthwhile products. I switched older yet still functional Vuma Quads to their crankset and have never been happier – albeit with circular rings. Maybe next iteration I will try some ovoid rings and give them a go!

3 years ago

Maybe I am crazy, but I think I remember having a very old group set in the late 80’s or early 90’s with ovoid chain rings. I think it was called Shimano Exage or 600. . . Can’t really remember. Does anyone remember oval Shimano cranksets?

3 years ago
Reply to  Will

Yes, Shimano did have an ovalized chairing design a few decades ago called Biopace, but it had the ovoid shape positioned 90° off from where it would actually have helped. Nobody really liked it and Biopace went away after a short time.

3 years ago

I use ovoid rings on all my bikes.
At first, I got Q-rings for road, and I especially liked the fact that you can change the orientation of each chainring independently(it is not recommended, but I like OCP#3 outer for the flats, and OCP#4 for climbing), and that they make orientation changeable chainrings for all kinds of cranks.
However, now that they are pushing DM chainrings and cranks, both of these merits have disappeared.
That is why I got absolute black oval rings for gravel and XC/trai with Shimano cranks, also because MTBs became 1x specific, and because I don’t want to ding relatively expensive Rotor cranks.
I still use Rotor 2in/Power cranks for both my road bikes, with 5-arm spiders. I really hope they keep producing Q-rings for this setup…

Pablo Carrasco Vergara

Hi Andy, thank you for your comments!
We know the advantage we have lost forcing both chainrings’ OCP to be the same… But now shifting is not anymore compromised. Furthermore, with the new OCP Mount, the fine tuning of the orientation make easier to find a good compromise for both inner and outer chainrings.
We do also have Q-Rings for Shimano cranks, the road ones compatible with ROTOR cranks… The MTB and Gravel ones are specific for Shimano.
Regarding Q-Rings for BCD 110×5, they are and will be available!!
Best regards,

3 years ago

Hi Pablo, thanks a lot!!

As long as you will keep supplying 110×5 Q-rings, I can choose between independent OCPs or better shifting. However, I felt the shifting performance gaining through every minor change, so I feel sorry that I won’t be experiencing it anymore. I know it’s a small market, but still…

That aside, the thing I love most about Rotor, is that you keep giving us users choices.
OCP is one of them, and compatibility is another.
You still supply previous ranges, have 5/4-arm spiders for new DM cranks, and can even choose between 30/24mm crank axles.

And about the Gravel and MTB Q-rings, I did not mention the number of teeth that I’m using.
I use 46/30T for gravel, and 28T for MTB.
Last time I checked, you sell them, but only in DM.
Please let me know if you have any plans to make Shimano crank compatible ones.

Best regards,

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