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Are 32″ Wheels the Future of XC Racing? BMC Chopped Up a Fourstroke to Find Out!

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, stem detail
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Love it or hate it, 32″ mountain bike wheels are getting some serious attention from big names. Apparently, BMC is taking the concept pretty seriously – chopping up and reassembling a carbon Fourstroke XC bike to see how those big wheels roll. We got some sneak peek photos from a photographer friend of Bikerumor on the ground in Andorra this weekend, where BMC’s Impec Lab R&D team were testing their latest frankenbike. It looks like they are calling it Project Fahrenheit, presumably a nod to the freezing point of water and this new wheel size.

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra World CUp

And when we asked BMC what was going on, they were surprisingly quite open to talk about these early days of their 32″ fact-finding project!f

32″ BMC Franken Fourstroke tested on Andorra World Cup

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, riding
(All photos © Max Schmid)

A few weeks ago, this prototype 32″ BMC Frankenbike was still just a standard medium-sized carbon Fourstroke XC bike and a pile of alloy frame junctions, fresh off their in-house CNC mill in Switzerland. Now, a couple of BMC Impec Lab engineers and Factory Team XC racers are riding it around the Andorra World Cup Racetrack to see if they think 32″ wheels will make sense for cross-country racing. Or whether it is all simply another hare-brained idea someone came up with, just to be different?

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, overlaid with standard Fourstroke frame
current 29″ Fourstroke frameset compared the modified 32″ prototype

Maxxis seemed to be taking it seriously by opening up a 32″ mold for their Aspen XC race tire and then showing an aluminum Faction proof-of-concept bike at Eurobike a couple of weeks ago. The rumor is that, beyond the Aspen, Maxxis has two other tread patterns for 32″ ready to go, hinting that the 32″ future is coming sooner rather than later.

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, overlaid with 29" Fourstroke
current 29″ Fourstroke with wheels compared to the longer, taller 32″ Project Fahrenheit prototype

So BMC’s engineers wanted to test it out themselves.

Interestingly, BMC tells us that this was driven entirely by their Impec Lab and not by the BMC Factory Racing XC team. It was the engineers who wanted to test the 32″ concept. So far, they’ve only asked a couple of the team riders to try the bike and offer their first impressions feedback.

Will you be able to buy a 32″ BMC Fourstroke anytime soon?

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice

The short answer to that is a resounding no.

BMC was clear when we asked that this is nothing more than an R&D-led project to explore the pros & cons of a 32″-wheeled XC bike. They don’t have any current plans to turn this into a production 32″ Fourstroke. But to be sure whether 32” XC bikes are the future, BMC figured they should build one and get their own impressions on how it rides.

There are still real obstacles to making a 32″ XC bike on a production scale, simply from the limited component specification offerings – specifically wheels, tires, and suspension forks.

But if the bike’s performance makes sense, and parts spec options expand, BMC wants to be ready to run with it.

How did BMC make a carbon 32″ bike work?

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, CNC-machined headtube

The biggest effort to make this work was BMC’s own Impec Lab cutting the headtube, bottom bracket, and rear dropouts out of a standard size Medium carbon 29″ Fourstroke, then slicing the toptube in front of the seattube.

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, cockpit detail

To put it all back together, the Impec R&D crew designed and engineered new clamshell aluminum frame junctions to keep the same Fourstroke geometry, more or less. Then, they CNC-machined the new parts in-house and bonded the carbon tubes from the donor 29er frame.

Maxxis 32 x 2.4″ Aspen tires. They get their labels blacked out because their factory team’s relationship with Pirelli… who are rumored to be developing their own 32″ tire!

Unlabeled 32″ alloy rims drilled for 28 spokes, front & rear. Again, no names since the team rides Duke wheels… again, who are rumored to be working on 32″ carbon rims!

Wildly modifying a DT fork!

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, DT Swiss F 232 One fork with dropout extensions

DT Swiss F 232 One fork, modified with bolt-on dropout extensions that extend the axle-to-crown height, but don’t change fork offset. BMC didn’t explain why they used a DT fork vs. the race team’s Öhlins or their OEM stock Fox or RockShox forks. But perhaps the hollow, straight lower walls and the flat machined fork ends of the DT fork simply made for a more secure connection to attach an extension?

It does seem that front suspension is one of the major limiting factors for the bigger wheels to make it into elite racing, as it simply takes longer for suspension sponsors (like BMC Factory Racing’s partner Öhlins) to create new 32″ forks (and decide on important details like fork offset, and axle width).

BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" XC bike prototype, stem detail

Maintaining the same ride height was also a bit tricky since the frame Stack increased with the larger diameter wheels. So the BMC Impec Lab team also designed and machined their own all-new wild stem. Developed to drop the bar position back down in front of the headtube, the Impec crew created a stem that connects to the fork’s steerer tube both below and above the headtube, clamping with a single bolt above the frame, but then bolted from the bottom as well with just enough movement to tighten the headset in between.

Interestingly, the stem and machined headtube also integrate a steering stop, presumably to keep the fork crown from hitting the straight carbon downtube.

Why Andorra?

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice

It looks like BMC brought the bike to Andorra to show off a bit. With all the other teams and many competing bike makers on site before the summer racing break, BMC seems to be bragging about how quickly their Impec Lab R&D crew could crank out the first serious rideable full-suspension test bike.

If you don’t count Faction Bike Studio’s recent Big Ben 32″ project, which we haven’t seen get dirty yet. DirtySixer has also worked on 32″ hardtails for years, and teased a production version just last month. Rumor has it, DirtySixer also will unveil a full-suspension 32er as early as next month!

It sounds like the BMC 32″ Frankenbike project started just back in March when Maxxis sparked interest in bigger XC wheels with their Taipei announcement of the 32″ Aspen. And they likely aren’t the only bike brand working on the bigger wheels, now!

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, spotted

But beyond showing off to the competition that BMC is firmly at the forefront of XC development, they genuinely wanted to test how the big wheels and big bike would perform on a proper World Cup racetrack. To gather real, quantifiable performance and telemetry data from an actual XC racetrack and real-world course conditions, and to also get real feedback from their elite factory team XC racers.

So, how does it ride?

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, smoother in the rough?

BMC says that they stayed conservative with only minimal geometry changes compared to the stock 29er Fourstroke, as they really just wanted to see how the bigger wheels change the ride.

We didn’t get any photos of their 29er benchmark. But BMC said they built up a standard size Medium 29er Fourstroke with the exact same fit, same suspension setup, and same but smaller 29×2.4″ Aspen tires to ride back-to-back laps for direct comparison.

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, faster downhill?

The R&D crew’s first impressions were that the bigger wheels truly delivered more grip over the track’s most rooty terrain, and the big rear wheel felt like it provided more ‘support’ when pushing the suspension through its full travel on the rougher sections of the course.

No word yet what BMC Factory Racing’s Titouan Carod thought after riding it earlier today for the first time.

Are 32″ wheels really all that much bigger than 29″ (or even 27.5″)?

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, ginat wheels

Let’s first be clear that 29″ wheels often don’t exactly measure 29″ in diameter to start with, nor do 27.5″ measure 27.5″.

32″ is a 686mm bead seat diameter, up 64mm from 29er’s 622 BSD, which was only 38mm more than 27.5’s 584 BSD.

  • For comparison, a 27.5×2.0″ tire is ~27.0″; 27.5×2.4″ is ~27.8″; and 27.5×2.6″ would be ~28.2″ tall.
  • A 29×2.0″ tire is about 28.5″, a 29×2.4″ would be 29.3″, and a 29×2.6″ tire would be almost 29.7″ in diameter.
  • So, these new 32″ x 2.4″ tires should theoretically measure approximately 31.8″ in diameter.

A 2.25″ wide tire is a more accurate frame of reference for comparing 27.5 & 29, although it has become a less common tire size. A 2.25″ 29er tire measures closest to a real 29″, and the same 2.25″ width for 27.5 is closest to actually 27.5″. But a 2.25″ 32″ tire would only measure 31.5″ in diameter. So, it’s not quite the 3″ jump the naming would suggest.

If we just look at the step in rim diameter, then split that in half, that means your axles and resulting ride height will be 32mm or 1.25″ higher off the ground. That also means the chainstays and fork legs will need to be about that same amount longer to fit the larger wheels. Likely adding up to full 64mm or 2.5″ increase in overall wheelbase length, all things being equal.

It’s certainly a sizable jump. But at the same time, we’ve seen so much recent variation in geometry from one bike to the next, that I’m no longer shocked if one brand’s Large mountain bike has 32mm longer frame Reach than another brand’s size Large.

32″ will likely be for medium to larger riders in any case…

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, Tituan Carod on track

But with that said, BMC also recognizes that 32″ wheels are not likely to make sense for smaller riders. Their unusually complex (or maybe even convoluted) stem solution is a perfect example of how tricky it might be to even get a medium-sized rider to be comfortable on the larger wheels.

Many unanswered questions remain!

prototype BMC Impec Lab Project Fahrenheit 32" Fourstroke XC R&D bike at Andorra XCO WC practice, in the pits

BMC’s Impec Lab took the initiative to crank out a rideable XC prototype bike with 32″ wheels pretty quickly, but they definitely haven’t yet answered all of the open questions about whether 32″ wheels even make sense in the first place. Of course, that’s exactly why they built the bike, do try and answer these questions with real-world experience.

BMC-Switzerland.com

But we still have plenty of questions. Leave your questions, or your thoughts on answers to our in the comments below!

  • Will it make sense to go with narrower/wider tires or rims to offset the different contact patch shape of the 32″ setup?
  • Would it be worth making lighter tires, rims, wheelsets, or even frames to offset the additional weight of the larger diameter setup?
  • Does a small rider, a medium rider and/or a larger rider actually benefit more or less from 32″ wheels?
  • Are different-size XC racers actually interested in racing on 32″ wheels?
  • Should suspension travel length be reduced or rethought with the bigger wheel diameter/tire attack angle?
  • Does tire pressure or even suspension damping setup need to change with the larger wheel size, too?
  • Should bike geometry be made steeper/faster to balance the inherently more stable, larger wheels?
  • Is real bike frame, fork, or wheelset stiffness significantly impacted by the longer fork legs, longer seat/chainstays, and longer spokes with reduced bracing angles?
  • Should 32″ XC wheels be built on SuperBoost or even bigger Fatbike hub spacing to overcome reduced wheel stiffness?

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HDManitoba
HDManitoba
7 days ago

Not that UCI racing should dictate what the bike industry comes up with as the next best thing, but are 32″ tires even legal to race in uci events? There used to be a maximum tire diameter rule. Been a long time since I had to think about any of that so it might have changed.

JNH
JNH
5 days ago
Reply to  HDManitoba

In MTB there’s almost no bike rules beyond safety standards, it’s why we get so many weird and wacky DH prototypes over the years.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
4 days ago
Reply to  JNH

Some of that is new-ish. When I needed to know these things it would have been illegal to ride 2 different sized wheels on a MTB in uci competition. I know they did away with that for MTB but wasn’t sure if they also got rid of other limitations such as max tire diameter.

nooner
nooner
7 days ago

So BMC after your A B testing at Andora. was 32 wheels faster on that track? or not? That is the bottom line. The clock does not discriminate. Great article @Cory but no synopsis. Dig around and get some data.

Oli
Oli
6 days ago
Reply to  nooner

It’s faster. It was tested years ago by various brands, and independent tests have shown 32″ much faster (unsurprisingly) than 29″ over any significant corrugation. I’d guess this is more to keep their name in the press than anything, re: this BMC. They’re not racing this in Andorra, and I doubt they even have the money for a full, new development project at the moment, given their difficulties. Hence why they’re still on the really old suspension design.

nooner
nooner
6 days ago
Reply to  Oli

Thanks Oli, i always value your comments. This kinda confirms my suspicion that 32 is faster. I would just love to see some empirical data to support that premise. Cheers

PéMolinar
PéMolinar
6 days ago

If you’re not a top racer, I can’t see how you can benefit from such large wheels. They would be heavier and at the rear, there would be a problem with strength, i.e. hub width Vs chainline and Qfactor …
All the best !

slartibartfast
slartibartfast
3 days ago
Reply to  PéMolinar

nah if the chainstays are longer the chainline will be less extreme.

Frank
Frank
6 days ago

The increased moment of inertia of the wheel and tyre may just tip over to the point where the “numbers” are good but the feel/handling/reaction are not.

McDörben
McDörben
6 days ago
Reply to  Frank

We’ve all heard the same thing about 29ers back in the day. My guess is that the human nerve system is good enough to quickly adapt to it and technical innovation will do the rest.

slartibartfast
slartibartfast
3 days ago
Reply to  Frank

I just want it for the comfort. Pot holes, cow trails, washboard, whatever, bigger wheel sounds great for some terrains

Sean
Sean
6 days ago

Say hello to toe overlap, longer rake and slack headtube angles.

Shafty
Shafty
6 days ago

If we stop looking towards racing and aggressive fits, 32″ wheels clearly have viable uses for taller riders. Instead of jamming the wheels into a current medium or large frame, put them on an XL bike with a moderate or upright position. It doesn’t matter if racers like it, if regular tall folks can get a better fitting and riding bike.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
4 days ago
Reply to  Shafty

You could also just place smaller wheels further apart for bigger riders. In other words, a 29er with the same wheelbase and rear-center as this 32er.

Big wheels only limit how small you make something, not how big. Why many size small mtbs use 27.5″ tires rather than trying to jam in 29″ wheels.

And if it’s just for a fun bike not racing, then the marginal gain in rollover and rolling resistance won’t matter but the durability of a smaller, stronger wheel would likely be of more benefit to the user.

Barba
Barba
6 days ago

And what is wrong with 29in

Dockboy
Dockboy
4 days ago
Reply to  Barba

Trying new ideas doesn’t mean the old ones are wrong, it’s just interesting. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with 29ers that a larger wheel fixes, but they could be advantageous for certain riders in certain conditions. Options are usually good to have.

nooner
nooner
3 days ago
Reply to  Dockboy

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with 29ers that a larger wheel fixes
One thing I hope that 32 wheels will improve over 29 is ride comfort level over high frequency washboard stutter bumps on dirt and gravel roads The 32 wheels larger circumference could be the bees knees. Also 32 could have higher average speeds, but again we need the data.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
3 days ago
Reply to  nooner

When everybody rode 26″where and 29″wheels were the minority the 29″ smoothed the stutter bumps great because they were all caused by 26″ wheels.

Now that most rude 29″ wheels the stutter bumps are formed at the 29er wheel frequency.

So my guess is that the 32″ wheel will work well for the stuttery stuff as long as it stays in the minority. If most adopt 32″ wheels then the stutter bumps will eventually just wear into the new pattern and you’ll be right back where you started.

Bigger tires and/or better suspension would be needed to truly solve the high frequency, stutter bump issues.

Tim
Tim
3 days ago
Reply to  HDManitoba

“Solve” is not the right word- you’re never going to eliminate all bumps. But bigger wheels will most assuredly REDUCE the impact from each bump. It happened when most people went to 29 from whatever it was they were riding, it happened with me personally when I went from 29 to 29+, and it will happen again with 32 if it gets adopted.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
3 days ago
Reply to  Tim

You just proved the point. You run bigger tires. That are also effectively a different OD than what the majority of riders are riding.

And yes, you can actually “solve” bumps if you want to. Google or YouTube search “Bose car suspension”.

I wouldn’t want this on my MTB, or car or motorcycles for that matter but some might.

Tim
Tim
2 days ago
Reply to  HDManitoba

I ride bigger tires already- I’m on 29x3s with a real diameter of 30.5, and am looking at bumping up to 29×3.25s that measure out at 31. Those tires reduce the bumps but don’t eliminate them.
You might be right about the possibility of suspension so good it erases every imperfection in the trail. Personally though I don’t want to have the trail underneath me nearly erased, which is one reason I ride full rigid.

Tim
Tim
5 days ago

I currently am on a fully rigid bike with wheels that are effectively 31″ in diameter- a Jones LWB 29+. Comparing it to my FS 29er, I can say that it rides very, very smoothly- a lot of trail irregularities that would really affect my 29er FS bike just barely register. The absence of springs and dampers means my bike with its 31″ wheels does get outgunned in really choppy terrain, but it really does have to be pretty bumpy and fast for that to be the case.
In short- yes, bring on the 32ers. And yes- 32+.

Tim
Tim
5 days ago
Reply to  Tim

Correction: I just stood a yardstick up to my wheel, and it measured not 31 inches, but instead 30.5. This actually brings my point home even more strongly.

Whodee
Whodee
5 days ago

I know BMC isn’t really a frame builder in the same way most of us think of frame builders, but that is an ABSURD amount of extra work to convert a frame vs. building a new one with the geo and clearances they needed. I’m wondering why they did it that way because it’s not like their moulds will support those changes and they’re adding a bunch of extra joints and hardware to a frame design/material that doesn’t really like those kinds of things. I get that branding and sticking to the style guide is kind of what makes companies like BMC what they are, but whoever chose the hack and patch direction needs to get punched in the face by their engineers for such a stupid way to get that made. The designers and machinists definitely stepped up to make a dumb idea look as good as possible (A+ for the stem and fork updates), but still… All that extra effort could’ve gone into making a much better purpose built frame.

Last edited 5 days ago by Whodee
Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict
5 days ago
Reply to  Whodee

So you don’t think their engineers were involved in making this prototype!? Who do you think did it?

Whodee
Whodee
3 days ago
Reply to  Eggs Benedict

It’s weird. Some of your responses are very insightful and some of them are pretty worthless and seem like you don’t have basic reading comprehension.

I think the engineers were given the moronic directive from the marketing department to keep as much of the production frame as possible and they did a great job of it if that wasn’t clear enough in my post.

Idiotic concept, solid execution. I’m not sure why that seems to be such an unpopular opinion from people who probably don’t know how much extra work BMC made for themselves doing it that way. People seem to think machining parts is an absolute piece of cake because they don’t know what goes into it.

Last edited 3 days ago by Whodee
Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict
3 days ago
Reply to  Whodee

I think you and HDManitoba are the same person.

Tim
Tim
2 days ago
Reply to  Eggs Benedict

You totally read my mind! Exactly the same way of writing

Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict
1 day ago
Reply to  Tim

Yes, the writing gave it away. They have a real gas-lighting vibe to their responses.

Whodee
Whodee
1 day ago
Reply to  Eggs Benedict

I think you need to learn what gaslighting means.

Whodee
Whodee
2 days ago
Reply to  Eggs Benedict

I think this is where your lack of reading comprehension comes back into play.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
2 days ago
Reply to  Whodee

We are indeed not the same person. I try not to disparage the other commenters personally as this is all just bikes and fun. No need for name calling.

Not saying I’ve never done it, I just try not to.

Grillis
Grillis
4 days ago
Reply to  Whodee

They literally just cut up a frame and harvested the main tube sections. Then cnc’s some junctions to make it all fit. Something they could clearly, easily, handle in-house.
It’s called a prototype for a reason.

Whodee
Whodee
3 days ago
Reply to  Grillis

You make it sound like those are all really easy things to do. So much so that I’m guessing you’ve never actually done any of those things. The extra work to do it the way they did is dumb from every standpoint except for the marketing department. Not a single competent engineer or frame designer would’ve chosen to do it like that. It reeks of marketing department hack.

Last edited 3 days ago by Whodee
Whodee
Whodee
3 days ago
Reply to  Grillis

Also, your logic is completely broken. It’s OK to have a terrible core concept because it’s a prototype? Or it’s OK to use a bunch of extra time and resources that you wouldn’t have had to use if you just built a frame from scratch because it’s prototype? I guess I just wanna know what your reason is because none of what you said is actually a reason.

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
4 days ago
Reply to  Whodee

I agree that just making a welded aluminum frame would have been a lot easier and better end product. Likely cheaper and safer as well.

Like you said, BMC is an image driven company as much or more than engineering, but they were also working with their racers who can be equally as illogical and likely would protest riding anything that wasn’t plastic. So likely some of this was done in order to get a more unbiased feedback from who they choose to test with.

Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict
4 days ago
Reply to  HDManitoba

What?

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
3 days ago
Reply to  Eggs Benedict

What didn’t you understand? BMC bikes have always had a lot of industrial design and not an equal amount of engineering from the time they entered le tour in the 00’s.

Why chop apart a carbon frame and then make aluminum lugs. It’s not going to mimic the ride and stiffness quality of a carbon frame nor the low weight. It would have been much faster and easier to have just made the frame from aluminum, especially considering they make aluminum versions of their bikes already. Call up the factory in Taiwan and have the. Send all the forged pieces and weld in some aluminum tubes and Bob’s yet uncle. And you don’t have all the safety issues of glued and bolted together lugs and carbon tubes.

If your talking about the racer comment, go do testing with high level racers . You’ll figure out that they are full of preconceptions and biasis like carbon is fast and aluminum is for slow bikes and silly stuff like that. That’s why it’s always best to do blind testing if at all possible.

Some racers don’t do this and come in with an open mind to the testing, but not many.

Juan
Juan
5 days ago

The 36” dirty sixer uses 197×12, the common fatbike standard. The 32” would at least need 157×12.

Remember you can’t “feel” wheel strength when riding, you might be able to feel stiffness, which is the inverse of compliance.

https://www.pinkbike.com/u/redfoxrun/blog/157mm-hubs-super-misunderstood.html

fabiano
fabiano
4 days ago

riders should be use camelbak in the races

Grillis
Grillis
4 days ago
Reply to  fabiano

I believe they can if they want to, but why would they when they can grab a bottle every lap as necessary?
Also, why is that even relevant here?

HDManitoba
HDManitoba
4 days ago
Reply to  fabiano

Too much weight, sweaty back, restricts movement and they have feed stations. Riders get a bottle when going through there and might dump it at the end of the feed station, not even carry it on the lap. It’s not the old 100% self supported MTB racing it was in the 1990s. They don’t even carry tools or a tube anymore.

Last edited 4 days ago by HDManitoba
slartibartfast
slartibartfast
3 days ago

don’t you dare say superboost, we had just about shamed the manufacturers into dropping it, except pivot. if 32″ ends up on enduro bikes, fine, but for trail and xc normal boost will be fine.

Speshy
Speshy
1 day ago
Reply to  slartibartfast

This is almost as dumb as Richard Sachs duck taping his bottle cages to his cx bike. Almost.

Ken
Ken
2 hours ago

I could see mullet XC bikes. 32/29.

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