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BERD Talon Hubset Hooks the Flanges for Fast Lacing of Lightweight Wheelsets

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BERD has released a hubset designed specifically for use with their “world’s lightest” spokes, making it easier than ever to build a custom BERD Spoke-laced wheelset with the rim of your choice. Made from an Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE) that has 12x the strength-to-weight ratio of steel, BERD Spokes are said to have an improved fatigue life over their steel counterparts. The material is also said to confer vibration damping benefits to any wheel build. In keeping with that, the new BERD Talon hubs are relatively lightweight too, aimed at XC and Trail riders.

Rob at BERD gives us an amusing insight into the challenges that can be overcome with the use of the Talon hubset.

BERD Talon Hubs

Why do BERD Spokes need their own specifically-designed hubset? The answer is that they don’t, but it’s more complicated than that.

While there is seemingly a long list of benefits to be had with BERD Spokes, their widespread use has been limited not only by the high price, but also by a hesitancy to modify one’s hubset in order to be able to use them. To lace up a wheelset with BERD Spokes and a J-Bend Hub, one must take a drill to the hub flanges, chamfering the holes to accomodate the UHMWPE spoke. The chamfering is necessary to remove any sharp edges around the hole – edges that could compromise the integrity of the spoke. That will undoubtedly void the warranty on the hub.

Spoke count is limited to 28 with no immediate plans for more

The new BERD Talon Hubs provide hooked flanges to make wheel building a more straight-forward, faster process. We’ve seen this design previously on Onyx Vesper hubs made specifically for BERD wheelsets. While those hubs use a nigh-on instant engagement sprag clutch mechanism, the new BERD Talon hubs see a more ubiquitous ratchet mechanism.

The BERD Talon hubs launch with a 36t dual-sprung ratchet offering up a 10° engagement angle; a 54t ratchet option with faster pick-up is winging its way to production very soon.

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The BERD Talon Hubs are Centerlock only

BERD tell us the Talon hub is extremely durable. The maximum system weight limit (rider + bike) is 300 lbs (136 kg).

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BERD says, “Talon hubs will allow you to build wheels in your shop in approximately half the time as J-Bend or Straight Pull hubs

BERD Talon Claimed Weights

  • 148mm x 12mm Rear & 110mm x 15mm Front (Set) – 466g
  • Front 110mm x 15mm – 156g
  • Rear 148mm x 12mm – XD 306g – Microspline 308g – Shimano 11 Speed 316g
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Pricing & Availability

BERD Talon hubs are now available in Boost Spacing only (15mm x 110mm front and 12mm x 148mm rear), exclusively in black, with XD, Microspline, and 11 speed freehubs. Retail price is $496 USD for the set with the 36t ratchet which is in stock now; the 54t option is set to ship in 4-6 weeks. BERD offers a two-year warranty against manufacturing defects.

Complete wheelsets with the BERD Talon hubs are also available now. The HAWK27 and HAWK30 wheels are priced at $2,095 USD; that’s $100 cheaper than the Industry Nine equivalent.

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Hamjam
Hamjam
11 months ago

I cannot imagine that smoothing out the holes in a hub would void your warranty. They would not cover the the stuff that happened from grinding it down, but what could that be? They would still cover everything else.

Roger Pedacter
Roger Pedacter
11 months ago
Reply to  Hamjam

It’s pretty easy for a manufacturer to use ANY mechanical modification of the hub shell to void a warranty and I can totally understand why they would. At this level, it’s a highly stressed part, designed to strict tolerances. Maybe it’s made from 7075 alloy and breaking through the anodizing will lead to corrosion and compromise the material? Maybe it’s forged and cutting through the compressed outer layers will reveal the lower compression grain structure and reduce the strength? Maybe you gouge the flange somewhere else and introduce a whole new future failure point while you’re working on the spoke holes?

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
11 months ago
Reply to  Roger Pedacter

While I agree with you, if you do it right, you’re basically doing what the hub manufacturer should have done as it’s better for j-bend spokes to not contact any edges in a hub, even if they’re 45 degree edges

Nick
Nick
11 months ago

“Half the time” is absolutely not true as you have to wait for the strands to stretch fully before fully tensioning the wheel, unlike traditional spokes that you can pre-stress fully as you build the wheel

Ashok Captain
Ashok Captain
11 months ago
Reply to  Nick

Interesting comment. Thanks for posting. Presume that you have experience with building wheels with BERD spokes.

Danno
Danno
11 months ago
Reply to  Ashok Captain

There’s a YouTube video that describes this exact process. It takes 2-3 days to dial in these wheel sets.

Ryan
Ryan
11 months ago
Reply to  Danno

If you have a wheel press then you don’t need to wait 3 days. Shops that build a lot of wheels will have a wheel press so it won’t be an issue for them.

Gregory
Gregory
11 months ago
Reply to  Ashok Captain

I’m sure he saw the YouTube video.

Collin S
11 months ago

Polymers experience creep when under constant tensile stress over time, which it turn means you will loose some tension over time.

The other erk I have with this press release: BERD Spokes are said to have an improved fatigue life over their steel counterparts.” Who Said? Steel does not have a fatigue limit. This is one of the first things you learn in any material science class. The classic visual is a Stress-Cycle Curve (S-N Curve) of aluminum and steel. Steel has an endurance limit where if the stress applied is lower than that level, the number of cycles the steel can withstand is essetially infinate where Aluminum does not have this endurance limit stress so even a modest force over time will induce a crack in the aluminum part given enough cycles.

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