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Enduro Bearings start shipping TorqTite threaded PF bottom brackets, plus prototype…cranks?

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First spotted at Interbike, Enduro Bearings’ TorqTite bottom brackets are finally finished and shipping. They’re available in PF86, PF30 and PF30/24 using their threaded design that pulls the sides together by screwing into an alloy center sleeve. This holds them tight, improving bearing alignment for a smoother ride and likely eliminating creaking.

The PF30 can be converted to a PF386 with a longer center sleeve, available separately. The PF30/24 takes a Pressfit 30 frame and fits a Shimano 24mm spindle without additional spacers or reducers.

They’ll have a BB30-to-24 coming soon. Available in red or black, from $210 to $230. Check out more pics and their new crankset project below…

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The bottom brackets use deep grooves so the tools won’t slip.

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Tools are included with the BB.

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As a side project, their making cranks now, too. Actually they’re in testing, but they’re bringing retro back with all the modern fit features.

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It’s called the Enduro MOSC (Modern Old School Crank) and its machined out of AL2024 with an integrated spider.

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They’ll have 144BCD track and 110/130/135 BCD road options, in all the common lengths.

Looking to have it through testing and ready by Interbike. It should be around $800 with an XD-15 ceramic bottom bracket.

EnduroBearings.com

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GG
GG
9 years ago

Love it – the solution to fixing press-fit bottom brackets… make a bottom bracket with threads.

Strong work bike industry.

MasterOMayhem
MasterOMayhem
9 years ago

nice they are called torqtite but you cant use a torque wrench.. just hand tighten…

David
David
9 years ago

Mightn’t it be better than a threaded outboard BB (whose two sides screw into the frame independently)? With the two sides threaded to a common central element, alignment and creaking issues ought to be resolved.

(Just as they were with catridge BBs… But this might be *stiffer* and *lighter* therefore *better* – whilst still allowing for shoddy frame manufacturing tolerances.)

Tom
Tom
9 years ago

Seems like a concept “borrowed” from Praxis?

CeeJay
CeeJay
9 years ago

@Tom The concept of these BBs are actually quite different from Praxis’.
These act similar to a pressing tool you would use to install a normal Pressfit: the thread on this pulls the bearings together to fit on the frame.
Praxis’ work by threading a “normal” threaded BB in a shim that expands and fixates the BB to the frame.

That’s how i think it works.

Dave B
Dave B
9 years ago

These are a good way around some of the problems with PF30 type bottom brackets and a good way to directly use Shimano or other 24 mm cranks in a PF-style bb shell but at over $200 they are going to be a tough sell.

Brent
Brent
9 years ago

$800 for a alloy crankset, is it even made in the us? Or has someone been to TPE with a blank check?

ken dehaven
ken dehaven
9 years ago

Any word on a similar fix for treks bb90/95….. I’ve got one on a superfly that needs some serious help!

dr_lha
dr_lha
9 years ago

So the $800 includes a BB, but does it include chainrings? I ask because the photo there shows Campy chainrings installed on their crank.

mateo
mateo
9 years ago

$800 seems steep, but that casual mention of XD-15 BB explains some of it. MSRP on those BBs alone is $200-250.

C
C
9 years ago

I don’t get it… these don’t really fix anything… well OK they prevent a PF cup from being pulled out when using Truvative style cranks, but what about vertical or for and aft movement as a result of intolerances in diameters between the shell and cup?

Pistolero
Pistolero
9 years ago

Too many solutions to solve aproblem which root that generates the creaking is still there. Proper solution would be to purchase only frames with threads, no press fit, no bb30, no BS.

All these new standards in wheels and axles and bb is very annoying, but the standards that create unnecessary problems is even worse. This is getting uber stupid, seems like stupidity has no limits, no boundaries nowadays… triple facepalm, again.

joenomad
joenomad
9 years ago

BR did a review on Wheels Mfg outboard BB adapters, which are more reasonably priced.

Rico
Rico
9 years ago

The more pf30 solutions the better. All the same arguments pop up every time BBs are mentioned. I still say why not just make threaded frame that fits 30mm. It wasnt broke, so go back to it! For now though i have two brand new pf30 frame here that need bearings, so tx Enduro, Wheels and Praxis for the less creaky options.

Greg @ dsw
Greg @ dsw
9 years ago

Not exactly clear to me (and no info on the enduro site), are they gonna also have a 30mm spindle solution for BBright?

Rich
Rich
9 years ago

I think this looks like a pretty smart solution to the creaking BB problem. Up there with Praxis Works, hopefully.

Seraph
Seraph
9 years ago

Those cranks seem like a huge step backwards. Plus Velo Orange already makes a bunch of “vintage” crank options.

AbelF
AbelF
9 years ago

If I get this right, the “benefit” of the pressfit bbs is added stiffness by incresing the diameter of the bb shell where the bb is pressed in. Why dont they just add threads to this bigger diameter bb shell? Wouldnt that be the best of both worlds?

Will
Will
9 years ago

Money is the driving force. If the industry keeps introducing new wheel standards, brake standards, and BB standards, not to mention electric bits, people will chase them down and purchase new stuff. If the new pro bikes look about the same as the one you bought four years ago. . . You will probably just keep riding it. Money. . . Simple.

nick
nick
9 years ago

Will this screw type press fit bb not void warranties? I was thinking the beer component ecentric bb that screwed together was voiding warranties. Maybe you won’t have to tighten this as much? Saw a frame manufacturer mention their frame wasn’t designed for the inward force.

Ed
Ed
9 years ago

Now if they will only make a 30 to 24 conversion that will allow race face 30 mm new cranks to fit in traditional 68 English bottom brackets so you have the option of using Enduro’s much better made cups and ceramic bearing bottom bracket vs Race Faces bottom bracket bearings

JonB
JonB
9 years ago

One of the large drivers behind press-fit BBs is carbon frames. You can’t make a good thread directly into the carbon/epoxy (not one that will last, anyway, and it’ll trash your tap fast), so you need to install a quite large insert into the BB shell either during or after molding.

Either way, you have a larger diameter, heavier bottom bracket that STILL has an extra part in there that can work loose over time and cause pops and creaks. And worse, it’s not something that can be repaired/replaced easily. Or you can use the same size BB but smaller bearings, which is less stiff and has less load capacity.

It’s also way easier to ream a bore with a concentric centerline than it is to get a tap in perfectly true from two sides, so you end up with better bearing alignment.

Don’t get me wrong – there are obvious downsides – but these are the reasons why companies are going towards the PF BBs.

matte
matte
9 years ago

This looks great but they’re $288!? This is an excellent solution to a problem that was created by the industry “solving” a non-existent problem with traditional outboard bearings.

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