First Look: All-New Shimano XTR M9000 – 1x, 2x and 3x 11-Speed MTB Groups

I think the finish on those cranks looks awesome!

Congratulations, but i must tell that first SRAM build and then SHIMANO copies 😉

Are the rear shifty bits compatible with Shimano’s 11-speed road shifters?

I’m a Shimano guy at heart, but this is not going to get me to give up my XX1.

If SRAM would only come out with a X9 equivalent version of the 1×11 system they’d rule the market. It’s the cost holding most back at this point, as seen in the proliferation of the Wolftooth-type 42t cog solutions.

Shimano seems to have come out with the ultimate 2X solution at a time when many are finding ways to go 1×11. And for going 1×11, SRAM clearly figured out a better way. If SRAM would only come out with a X9 equivalent version of the 1×11 system they’d rule the market. It’s the cost holding most back at this point, as seen in the proliferation of the Wolftooth-type 42t cog solutions.

This is all coming from a guy who has traditionally been a shimano guy and SRAM hater.

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First head over to singletrackworld.com for the videos – amazing. it seems Shimano have really engineered this group set to enhance current bike design allowing shortening chain stays and the fact this can fit on current hubs (as far as I currently understand it)

this for me is better than SRAM x1, if you’re into cycling really steep sections x1 upfront isn’t for all of us! yes shout ‘you’re weak’ but I can clear sections most people mostly walk up. cycling isn’t always about going down hill fast sometimes getting over that gut busting aching steep section is important and rewarding. We all can’t be animals and world cup level athletes

when this technology (front dérailleur in particular) trickles down as it assuredly will – it’s going to have benefits for lots of folk

Pmurf: I have an XT derailleur with a clutch. The only time I disengage the clutch is to remove the rear wheel. Since I rarely remove the rear wheel while riding, I don’t mind getting off the bike to grow the clutch disengagement lever.

Under what conditions would you want to disengage the clutch on the fly?

it doesnt take a crystal ball to see that this is going to blow sram out of the water. 100g front derailleur? super-long wearing titanium teeth on their 1x chainring? externally adjustable clutch? unlike sram, shimano doesnt force you to go 1x if you want the latest and greatest.

Can they make a 10spd cassette with that 40t?

@pmurf There isn’t really any good reason to disengage a clutch, in my humble opinion. That’s one of several areas where SRAM got it right, especially with the cage lock mechanism.

Wow, I was beginning to think that Shimano was now invincible with all of their new road group successes, but this release clearly demonstrates the ebb and flow of manufacturer dominance. @drewandnotu hit the nail on the head: They won’t acknowledge that the 1×11 drivetrain is fantastic and riders are loving it. I think this group is too far removed from current rider needs and wants. I mean, seriously, who needs a 22t-40t combination? I mean, a strong gust of wind could turn that ratio up a climb. Also, the FD and crankset is atrocious.

I have had problems with 2 XT clutch RDs dropping the chain off the lower pilot wheel and jamming it against the cage. Happened during a race and by the time I finished, the chain had cut through the cage. Shimano replaced the RD, and now I leave the clutch in the off position almost all the time.

all I want to know is if the cog spacing is the same as sram xx1
might make a good training cassette , hope they come out with an xt version

i don’t think they could have made that crank any uglier. it looks like they trickled up styling cues from acera.

I still cant figure out what is wrong with the front mech and why people want to get rid of it, maybe the really problem is bolding real ale drinkers that cant change gear properly.

What a huge disappointment. The rear derailleur and the crank are some of the ugliest, cheapest looking product I’ve ever seen Shimano make, especially for an XTR level group. As my coworker states, the rear derailleur is using trickle up product design from a Deore.

As a shop salesperson, we have sold ONE! high-end bike mountain bike using XT in the last 7 months. Everything else has been either XX1 or XO1. Your results may vary, but for the riding in our locale, a 1X setup is the best setup to run, with the exception of those who race cross country. And our customers feel the same way.

As a user of both current XTR and now XO1, I will never go back to a front derailleur, ever!

As the Interneters says, Fail!

Last year this time, when Shimano reps were asked, “When is the answer to XX1 coming?” the answer was, “Never, we don’t think 1×11 is a good setup.”

And then here we are today…

Good on Shimano for making the 11sp cass work on 10sp freehubs.

I wonder if anyone who was tempted to go with one of the aftermarket 40 or 42 t cogs for their 10sp setup will reconsider now that this is out and make the switch to 11sp…

MTBR just posted an article that explains the whole thing Much better- I like the Shimano cassette much better, as for the rest of it, it’s crap!

I’m a big Shimano fan, but this is super disappointing. No reason to leave xx1 for this. Hint to Shimano: anybody who currently has xx1/x01 will never go back to a front derailleur again! For the racing I do (50 to 100 mile endurance), the 10-42 cassette range is perfect. 11-40 is a lot smaller range. Why would I want to reduce my range or go back to a stupid front derailleur?

Not excited. I’ll be one of those late adopters, if ever. Perhaps if someone makes a bike I want that doesn’t make annoying noise (bad luck with press fit BB) and doesn’t have bits coming loose, slipping, etc (bad luck with DW-Link/VPP2 pivots, modular dropouts). I’ll perhaps get a new bike that’s equipped with Shimano 11spd.

The aesthetics look like part road-part deore, which I was conditioned to think was not high-end MTB.

This is a great news, no need for a new freehub body. Ok we will not have a gear ratio as good as what Sram is offering with the 10-42 but at least it will be a very good upgrade alternative.

11×42!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow there are allot of sram fanboys/ shimano haters on this forum. I have always preferred shimano over sram for the machined styling over gaudy “look at me graphics”, cassette that doesn’t require a ridiculous free hub body, and ofcourse the set it, leave it and it works functionality. The new xtr is going to be fantastic and whoa 11 speeds on a normal cassette body! You can run any hub and wheel you damn well please. GJ Shimano!

The crank looks phenomenal. It looks like a updated take on the 90’s xtr. There is no carbon to fray, chip or snap. So sick brah

The crank looks to me like their Altus crank found on $500 hybrids, but polished. I still want it, though.