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Velo Orange offers bike parts that blend timeless/retro style with modern innovation. I met up with them at the MADE Show a few weeks ago, and they have some new things to share.

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First, they are rocking a new logo that looks retro and new at the same time. With the new logo comes some new bike parts and a new frame.

Growtac Equal Control Levers

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The big news is that, hopefully in the next two months, they will be carrying a new pair of drop bar shifters. They will be of the stepless (non-indexed) type. They’re made by Growtac, and could be a game changer. You guys remember Growtac, right? I reviewed their super-popular, high-quality Equal mechanical disc brakes a while back.

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Growtac’s Equal Control Levers are going to simplify, if not eliminate complications of mixing drivetrain components. No matter the manufacturer, groupset, and number of speeds you want to to run, these new shifters will work. And, according to Growtac, they will allow the user to shift from 2 to 13 speeds.

Checking the Growtac website, the new levers may have a third smaller lever on the right lever. This lever could be used to actuate a remote lockout or dropper post.

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They will be available with both front and rear shifting or in a 1X configuration.

Chessie Aluminum Gravel Frameset

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Named after the mythical sea monster that lives in the Chesapeake Bay, the Chessie will bring you “monstrous fun”! Velo Orange says don’t think of the Chessie when you think of a harsh riding aluminum frame.

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There have been advances in the way aluminum frames are constructed. These methods separate them from the battle tank aluminum frames of yesteryear. The main triangle of the Chessie is double-butted, and sports custom bends and other technical features, including its unique dropouts.

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The dropouts allow for chain tensioning in the single-speed configuration and are compatible with flat-mount brakes. All while still leaving enough room for fenders.

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The fork is triple-butted and comes with mounts for fenders, racks, and cargo cages. The legs of the fork have a subtle external taper and a cool segmented design, elegant without being overwhelming.

The medium and large frames have clearance for 700 x 50mm or 650b x 2.25″ tires. If you decide to run fenders Velo Orange suggests sizing down to 700 X 45mm. The small and XS sizes are designed around 650b x 2.1 and 26 x 2.25″ tires. With fenders, you can get away with 650b x 48.

Velo Orange is waiting on the final test lab reports to complete their internal testing. After that, they give the green light on production. They are expecting the Chessie to go on sale in early spring.

New Bike Bits

There and Back Rack

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The new, uber-versatile There and Back Rack is made from high-quality stainless steel. It can hold up to two panniers or two double cargo cages. A bonus feature is that it comes with two sets of stays. Meaning you can rock it on the front or rear of your bike.

Riddle Rack

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The Riddle Rack is a simple and classy way to keep transverse-mounted saddle bags from hitting your legs. It simply holds the bag back and away from any pedal interference. It clamps around a 27.2 seatpost providing extra space for your bag. All while making it easier to get in and out of.

Gibbous Bottle Cage

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Another new product is the Gibbous Cage. This is a fresh take on Velo Orange’s existing Mojave Cage. The Mojave Cage is designed to hold bigger bottles, like Nalgene Bottles. The new Gibbous Cage holds big bottles as well, but is a side-loader.

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The cage is made from stainless steel, keeping your bottles from getting marred up. They will also be available in both left-side retrieval and right-side retrieval. Look for these in the next few weeks.

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seraph
seraph
2 months ago

With such a short throw on the thumb lever, I can imagine that it’s pretty hard to microadjust your gears. I’m happy to be wrong though. I wish they had provided a video of the shifter functioning.

Raouligan
Raouligan
2 months ago
Reply to  seraph

They have on the Growtac website…

Nathan
Nathan
2 months ago

Initial news of the Growtac levers mentioned various index plates that can be added to the shift mechanism. I hope those materialize. I’ve never loved friction.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
2 months ago
Reply to  Nathan

These are made for people that want brifters with friction shift. As far as I know, there’s an abundance of brifters with indexing

David
David
2 months ago

Why is the author still spreading the misconception that construction material matters to the ride quality of a rigid double-triangle frame?

That nonsense has been disproven for decades, and it is embarrassing that an allegedly-professional author is still apparently unaware of how bicycle systems work. Non-suspended double-triangle frames are two orders of magnitude stiffer in the vertical plane than any of the components attached to them — especially the pneumatic tires — and test after test after test has proven that such frames do not deflect vertically and no rider has ever demonstrated an ability to distinguish such frames in a blind test.

Frame material matters to cost, it matters to appearance, it matters to weight, it matters to lifespan, but it has no effect whatsoever on ride quality, and this has been proven decades ago. Ride quality is controlled almost entirely by tire pressure, with small effects attributable to the stiffness of the seat post, fork, saddle, and handlebars, basically in that order.

Theken
Theken
2 months ago
Reply to  David

Proven or not there is a noticeable ride difference between Fame material. There is a lot of Mico pieces that go into overall ride experience yet frame material still plays a factor. Ask any pro that has ridden different materials in a short time frame.

Robin
Robin
2 months ago
Reply to  Theken

So “proven or not”, you claim it’s proven that there is a noticeable difference. I’m willing to bet none of those pros rode frames with different materials that were otherwise identical, meaning the frames of different materials with the same specs, i.e. geometry, the same stiffness values (torsional and bending) at the same points in the frames, etc. Unless that was done, the “pros” did not make valid comparisons regarding frame material.

It’s also worth noting, whatever opinions pros have are just that: opinions. Pros are not lab-grade sensors with high precision and high absolute accuracy. In fact, humans are pretty crappy sensors since their “readings” can be easily biased from all manner of things: mood, state of health, assumptions about whatever they’re measuring, and so on.

Veganpotter
Veganpotter
2 months ago
Reply to  Robin

The thing is, different materials will allow you to have more lateral stiffness while flexing a bit. You may be able to do that with aluminum but it’s going to fatigue poorly so engineered in flex will be minimal compared to carbon

David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Theken

No, there is demonstrably not any difference in ride between frame materials — and there cannot be, in the physical world we inhabit.

Every single blind test ever done has confirmed this. Pneumatic tires will compress to the point of failure, and debead off the rim before a rigid frame even begins to deflect. Handlebars will deform to failure, or just snap. And this has been proven for decades by Tour Magazine, Zipp, and others.

This is largely why we ride pneumatic tires, and not wagon wheels.

No pro has ever exhibited an ability to blindly differentiate between frame materials, and neither has anyone else, because it cannot be done.

There are not a lot of “Mico pieces” that effect ride quality. Tire pressure is about 95% of the calculation. Seat post and forks are about 4%. Saddles and handlebars make up the rest. Nothing else matters (barring jointed suspension).

Again, this has been known for decades. Consider catching up and/or heeding the sage advice of S. Wonder — “When you believe in things / that you don’t understand / then you suffer.”

Last edited 2 months ago by David
Jim
Jim
2 months ago
Reply to  David

You a new to cycling, aren’t you?

David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Jim

Let’s say that I am, just hypothetically. In that case, it should be easy for you to disprove my statement — but you are unable to, and are forced instead to resort to a pathetic attempt at ad hominem attack.

Which makes it even more clear that I am speaking the truth.

Dinger
Dinger
2 months ago
Reply to  David

Sorry David but this just isn’t true. Anyone who’s ridden across the eras of different frame material popularity has experienced the differences. Things of different stiffness don’t compress perfectly in series. The frame doesn’t “wait” to flex until the tire has exhausted it’s range of compression (I can flex the rear triangle of my bikes with the wheel out using my hand more than I can deform the tire..). If testing you’ve seen hasn’t captured it than that’s just flawed testing.

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David
David
2 months ago
Reply to  Dinger

Sorry Dinger, but you can investigate the results of every single blind test ever performed on this topic, and you will learn that no one has ever demonstrated an ability to distinguish frame materials.

And yes, when the frame is two orders of magnitude stiffer, it does not deflect until after the tire has failed.

And no one believes that you can stretch frame tubes with your bare hands there Hulk. The tensile strength of all materials used in frame construction is well beyond the range of human strength.

You are describing the tendency of humans to believe what they want to believe, and that tendency is stronger even than steel. However, when a blind test is performed and we remove belief from the equation, no human being has ever demonstrated an ability to distinguish between bicycle frame materials.

Baker
Baker
20 days ago
Reply to  David

David i want to let you know that you are correct. Many noobs who listen to second hand opinion and marketing will never believe this (alongside the other many myths in cycling.) While frame material does play a role in ride feel, it is not the most significant one. But tire pressure playing the biggest role but being 95% of ride feel is an exaggeration. I would argue there would be a difference in ride feel if you rode with a bamboo (non metal), frame. Also, you forgot/unaware that unlike frame material, wheel material plays a big role in ride feel. And finally, the choice of seat post material is more important than “4%”. Heres a link youll enjoy reading. Stay woke.

Vertical stiffness of bicycle frame and its influence on rider comfort | Discover Applied Sciences

Last edited 20 days ago by Baker
Robin
Robin
2 months ago
Reply to  Dinger

So tell me about the frames of different materials that were otherwise identical and that were setup exactly the same that you’ve ridden. Oh, I know the answer: none. That’s the answer.

Veso Mandaric
Veso Mandaric
2 months ago
Reply to  David

You have -5
Theken -2
Robin -1

It’s just hate here.

Regarding that writing

There have been advances in the way aluminum frames are constructed. These methods separate them from the battle tank aluminum frames of yesteryear.

I have to inform The Writer and The Audience:
There were NO ADVANCES in last 30 years in what kind of aluminum is used to make bicycle frames, and NO ADVANCES, in last 50 years, in how aluminum frames are manufactured.

There is only two kind of alloys used to make Al frames, 60.. series and 70.. series.
Any other alloy failed to produce mechanically sane product.

Matthias
Matthias
2 months ago
Reply to  Veso Mandaric

Butting and hydroforming weren’t around (or at least not affordable) in the 80s. Neither were scandium alloys.

Dinger
Dinger
2 months ago
Reply to  Veso Mandaric

If I’m reading your comment as intended, you’re saying that all aluminum frames should ride exactly the same?

Because this statement: “There were NO ADVANCES in last 30 years in what kind of aluminum is used to make bicycle frames, and NO ADVANCES, in last 50 years, in how aluminum frames are manufactured.” is nonsense.

Nolan
Nolan
18 days ago
Reply to  David

Coming late to the party. The author does not state that the material makes a difference. His comments are solely about construction techniques.

Peter.T
Peter.T
2 months ago

Hello

Veso Mandaric
Veso Mandaric
2 months ago

can anybody explain W D F this means??????????????????

….. waiting on the final test lab reports to complete their internal testing. After that, they give the green light on production.

THE FINAL TEST LAB REPORTS????????????????????????????

Dave in Asheboro
Dave in Asheboro
2 months ago
Reply to  Veso Mandaric

Probably durability testing. Frames and components are typically put through machine-repeated stress and impact cycles simulating thousands of miles of riding before final release on the market. They’re seeing if new designs will break so they hopefully avoid warranty claims or lawsuits if someone gets injured.

Dave in Asheboro
Dave in Asheboro
2 months ago

The form factor of those Growtac levers are a blatant copy of Campagnolo Ergopower levers, down to the brake lever shape and the inner “mouse ear” smaller sprocket button. It’s a wonderful shape and form factor that distributes shifting and braking across multiple distinct movements and levers, and as someone who’s ridden Ergopower for decades, it’s very intuitive and less conducive to repetitive motion stress on the hand ligaments and fingers compared to Brand S mechanical shifters. Few newer riders will be familiar with the Ergopower levers because the bike industry has put most production now in China and Taiwan. Would be good though to see a mention of the obvious copy of Campagnolo shifters.

Friction mode on these shifters is an intriguing real-world adaptation to 11-13 speed mechanical systems because their closer tolerances between gears mean that cable stretch and contamination make them harder to keep in tune. Friction shift takes some skill development when riding, but offers long-term reliable shifting regardless of cable and system wear or contamination. It would be excellent for long bikepacking or touring trips.

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