SRAM X0 11-Speed XX1-Style Drivetrain Likely Coming Soon, Hack Your Own Now

You had me at prognosticative.

Given that XX1 is completely sold out, and keeps being completely sold out, you’d have to question the mentality of trickling down the 1×11 groupset for now.

you can find xx1 parts everywhere

David, don’t take this as a personal attack, but you need to look a little harder. I can find XX1 almost everywhere online. I also called around and two out of the 4 bike shops I called around Denver had them in stock.

Just because your shop doesn’t have it, doesn’t mean it’s sold out. As others have said, QBP is currently in stock on most major XX1 components.

Trickle down makes a ton of sense, because SRAM, like most component makers, make the bulk of their money at the OEM level. There’s a lot of interest on the floors of most bike shops, but little willingness to throw down the money. However, relatively inexpensive carbon and aluminum XX1 (or XX1-style, depending on SRAM’s nomenclature) hardtails are going to light up sales pretty quickly.

by the way, XX1 Chainring is pretty important to the system for keeping the chain on with out the watcher. So unless those spiderless rings are XX1, the wont work correctly. not that they wont work, they just wont work correctly

Digi – some of the other chainrings are using a wide/narrow tooth pattern, and another benefit of that design is allowing for much smaller chainrings. That said, SRAM offers a 28T, and I don’t know anyone that would need anything smaller than that when combined with the massive XX1 cassette.

Also, forgot to mention in the article: I spoke with SRAM’s drivetrain guys at Sea Otter and they did say that there’s so much demand for XX1 that, on one level, it doesn’t make sense to dilute it with a lower cost offering. But, Gravity makes a good point about the OEM placements wanting to take advantage of the hype but offer something at a lower price point. That, and bringing more people over to the system early on keeps them off competing products…and it’s a pretty sure bet their competition is well aware of the success and wants some of that action.

Upon re-reading, I was under the impression the GXP and BB30 spiders were different, but perhaps that difference has gone away with the XX1 iteration of the spider.

I’ve been looking to convert my old SRAM 3×10 X0 GXP cranks to 1×10 using something like NSB’s direct mount chainring. Has anyone tried to convert a 3×10 X0 to use the XX1 spider?

Reading this article it looks possible as the 3rd (small) chain ring still attaches to the X0 spider not the cranks themselves and it would allow me to go to 1×11. What I don’t know is if the 2×10 and 3×10 X0 spiders or cranks actually have some differences.

Can we get a chainline measurement with the bb30 spider on the gxp crank? I think they should be different, but that could be good for getting more clearance with the xx1 ring.

I’m running MRP Spiderless chainring ’36T’. Weight is 365g for the combo XO crankarm driveside/Chainring (against those 378g above with 34T).

@Bill: Patents which cover the “big-thin”-thing are were already registered 1979 and before. Thats basic patents for transmission and chain drives which are mostly outdated for years. So if SRAM got patents, it would be pretty easy to get rid of these patents (in the US and Europe)

i’ve been on XX1 since October. Great system. I moved my XX1 spider and ring to a X9 crank to get a 180mm crank arm (unavailable in the current XX1 kit). i think there is a subtle chain line difference. There is a noise from the front ring now as the chain rides the fat/thin teeth. it is an audible click-click-click. I use it to keep my power steady as i’m climbing. if one leg is slacking off (left leg you know who you are!) the noise decreases in volume.

Sorry, but I see no hack here… the crankset is the least expensive part of the whole group. Spare front chainrings, cassette, freehub body are the critical parts that need to trickle down to a more affordable price… the only scenario in which this spider swap would matter is if you need a crank arm length other than 170/175 mm… I bet there is close to no money saved by buying a XX1 spider (IF available) and XX1 chainring compared to the whole crankset.

Miss the days where all that mattered was 4 or 5 arms and the right BCD…

Just put an XX1 spider on an S900 crank to see if it would work on the cross bike. Works a treat on my Giant TCX Adv! I’m thinking this is going to be a popular option for cross!

“In the case of the X-Sync technology, we are well aware of a 1979 patent describing a sprocket for agricultural conveyer equipment and are confident that we will obtain enforceable patent rights over this reference”, announces SRAM.

“Accordingly, competitors should consider whether their product is copying the agricultural conveyor sprocket or SRAM’s XX1 chainring with X-Sync technology.”

@Bill:

Well, I’m sure, that this patents won’t last in front of the court. Even Apple has a tons of problems to hold their patents, because some other guys were quicker.

@Max: Hope you are right! It would be a shame if SRAM limited competition. I can just imagine Shimano comming back with a nice 1 x 11 system. Infact I have a catalogue from a Taiwan hub maker that has Shimano 11 speed MTB compatible cassettes as an option on some upcoming hubs…

Hi,

Did anyone already tried the other way around?
So a 22/36 (64/104) sram XO spider on a XX1 crank arms?

Would be great if this would fit 😉

Best regards.