Tiso Wireless 12-Speed Road Group Photos, Updates

I want a 14 speed group i can control with my farts.

“The cassette gets away with fitting on a standard 10-speed freehub body because they’re full titanium cogs. That makes them strong enough to be thinner and have very narrow spacing.”
–the prior post on this nonsense

So, unless this gruppo costs like $300 I still dont see why anyone would choose it over the tried and true systems. Its ugly, probably heavy and almost certainly wont work right.

Can’t wait to kit out my Fred brand aero TT bike. So stoked.

Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but Tiso has to at least have a gloss finish on the levers and RD to exhibit some sort of refinement. Those levers are looking terrible.

For those complaining about finishing, some of these parts look like prototypes – fairly early prototypes, at that… or at least I’d hope. The rear derailleur is definitely produced by an additive manufacturing process (SLA, SLS, etc.), and really not cleaned up anywhere near enough for a press release photo shoot. Yes, it’s a pain to make them perfectly smooth, but it’s either a bit more money or a bit more time, and well worth it.

The levers look like fiber reinforced plastic – likely nylon(?). Glossy finishes are very hard on fiber reinforced parts without paint, but it does look like a significant improvement could be made by increasing mold temperature. This would allow the parts to “skin” more, bringing more resin to the surface and improving surface finish. Or it could just be a really ugly sand cast aluminum part, which would explain the awful texture. Hard to tell.

@Mark
“No wires or cables”
Power cables will still be there, their “wireless” claim isn’t exactly accurate.

I definitely like the concept of wireless and functionality paired with a smart phone, but wonder about the need for this range of cassette. Looking at the profile sure you get a nice one tooth gap on most cogs but I just don’t like the idea of spending most of my cycling time shifting gears non stop.
Tiso which school kid with access to free fonts did you get to create your logo it is appalling excuse for a logo?? I could have made a better attempt using standard word fonts. I can’t but help details like this will ruin your legitamacy as a true component manufacturer …. To compete with the big guns you have to be looking damn schmick!!

I’m still trying to figure out why we ever needed more than 7 gears. When we went to 8 it was like WTF? Then overtime it became alright. Then there was 9 and who the hell needs NINE gears? And ten, what a waste of material it could be lighter with out that shit. Now we have 11 and 12. It’s like the world is ending, I now have too many choices for gearing, I can actually be in the correct gearing for my preffered cadence most of the time. Something is seriously wrong. One of these days we will develop a lightweight variable transmission, then the world will REALLY end.

I, for one, wonder why we even invented the bicycle in the first place and aren’t all riding around on horseback #retrogrouch

Other than the fraction of people that live within earshot of this Tiso. No one, I mean no one will buy this for the following reasons ( or wish they didn’t):
1. Who the hell has heard of Tiso before
2. Availability will be ridiculous
3. As will the service
4. Expensive and who the hell has heard of Tiso!!!!

You are all missing the point: Road bikes are stupid therefore this is irrelevant.

I think the stuff looks kick a$$, can’t wait for a review.

There is some truth in the “why do we need ever more gears”-argument. Going from 5 to 6 is not the same as going from 9 to 10. The point is, you can’t have half a tooth. The more gears we get, the less gaps can be filled by adding another cog. With a 10-speed road cassette, the first gap is usually between 15 and 17. With 11-speed you can fill that gap, but is it really important to go to 12-speed to fill the gap between 17 and 19?

Of course you can use extra cogs to build very large cassettes, like the SRAM 10-42. But I am not convinced that is the way to go.

Just had a thought – next increment will be 13 speeds – bit of an unlucky number isn’t it? Does that mean manufacturers will stop at 12?