LIMITS Power Meter fits any bike regardless of pedals, cranks or hubs – and it’s cheap!

I think the widening of the Q-factor will be a big deterrent.

my q factor

Looks like it has its “limits” for sure with that awful q-factor change.

they say that it is JUST ANT+, which is fine for this price. They actually make it sound like the wider Q-Factor is a good thing. Riiiight. The biggest thing is that I don’t think this will only work with pedals that have external slots to use with the 15mm pedal wrench. That means no higher end Shimano, Look, etc pedals that can only be installed with an internal 6/8mm hex.

I have a hard time believing that a company nobody has ever heard of can make a product that is smaller, cheaper, and better than every big name out there in the power game.

Absolutely none of this is a good idea, so let’s ask people to give us money to make a business of it!

Ignoring the horrible Q factor, the fact that pedals will inevitably seize on it, and the absurdity of developing a product like this from scratch through crowd funding, I can’t wait to see one snap in two when someone gets on it.

It’s hard to believe anyone who rides a bike will think the Q factor isn’t a big deal. They make 10mm pedal extenders, try them out and educate yourself.

No 1/2″ option. Dang. I was hopeful someone was finally recognizing the growing need for a power solution on one-piece-crank cruiser bikes. I really need to know how much power I am using on the way to the bar.

Wide Q-factor yes, but maybe you can adjust your cleats so your shoes move inward again?

As soon as I saw the meter, I knew there would be lots of whining about Q-factors. Get a fat bike people! Adding 15mm to a Q-factor ain’t nothing.

And it would keep your shoes from rubbing the anodizing off of your cranks. Bonus!

Cool start… But yeah – Qfactor LIMITS this product so much. Why doesn’t someone make a crank boot style power meter that slides over the end of the crankarm?

Q factor, much like crank length is a non-issue for most, and as far as pedal strike, Garmin and Polar and any crank based strain gauge, for that matter, are at risk. At $200, the crash replacement is likely to be real fair. I venture to guess that in the future, more non-racers will want power, and will be ess concerned about clipping a crit corner. I see the price dropping in all makers of powermeters in 5,4,3…
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I’m a little skeptical that this product will hit the market, so i’ll hold onto my money until it hits retail. As for the Q-factor, I think it’s not going to be a problem for most people. I inadvertently bought the wider Q SRAM XX1 cranks on my MTB and I didn’t notice a difference at all.

Where are you guys getting this “most people” metric lol? As far as I know, 90% of people interested in training with power either race or want to race. 15-20mm more q-factor is huge to us! I’m not talking about fat biking or recreational cycling, I’m talking about people who put in 15+ hours a week and have their fit dialed to the point that if something is off by a whisker it will cause issues. And I won’t even address cornering and pedal strike. Let me guess the replies “just don’t corner so hard”, yeah ok.

Indiegogo flexible funding, for a product where no independent third party has validated the prototypes? Good luck with that.

Battery type and location? Not much room between spindle and outer case. Antennae and Ant+ RF transmission through metal case?

Not every rider needs a narrow Q-Factor. That is prevailing logic dictated by marketing and PMs who need to streamline production. Sure it works for some (5’3″ pro roadies) – but if you are tall have turned out, large feet, wider is better for your knees in a lot of cases. Pedal strikes – really? The body / brain has an amazing ability to adjust to subtle changes after time…unless your technique is poor of course. Cheers to these guys for making something regular people can afford. It’s really funny how folks get so “attached” to bike industry buzz words…

Many of you have brought up Q Factor as the primary issue. However most people Pronate (which is to pedal with there heel in) which typically causes you to strike your heel on the derailleur or chain stay. The way to address this is to move your cleat in and your foot out (which is already done for you with this system). However for those that do not Pronate the Q factor can be adjusted at the cleat by moving the cleat out and the foot in. There will be some that this system does not work for but most can be accommodated.

Regarding the compatibility with certain pedals. The claimed hole in the unit will never be big enough to accommodate the 8mm hex on the back of most high end pedals. That being said, when considering the current pedal power based offerings, this still offers a significant advantage which is pedal options. Granted not all pedals will work but now you can run your Time’s, Speedplay’s, Shimano’s and MTB or Road where as right now your only pedal based power systems are KEO cleated.

The only real concerns I have at this point is impact resistance. The reason impact is a concern is the high leverage the part has to overcome. The pedal is not threading into the crank. The part the pedal is threading into is separate from the outer body which threads into the crank. Since there is no sold connection other than a bonding agent and since the pedal is moved further away from the crank (which increase the leverage over the interface) there a greater chance for failure at the connecting point. The other concern I have is the pedal is more inclined to strike the ground in a corner due to the pre-mentioned.

Titanium pedal extenders are nearly the price of this unit, but in this case, you would have watts and wider

@ProFittingSolutions: “However most people Pronate (which is to pedal with there heel in)”

I don’t think “pronate” means what you think it means.

I also don’t think “there” means what you think it means.

CXisFun, you are correct in both cases. Replace Pronate with Duckfoot and replace there with their. Thank you for the catch.

Q factor aside, if you take a look at their proposed timeline it looks to me like they are figuring on product launch in about a year or less. How is that possible? Given the time it’s taken other very well funded, very knowledgeable companies to roll out consumer ready power meters, I’m just not sure this is going to happen. R&D aside, they need logistics, suppliers, not to mention the integrated Q/A processes that are embedded in every one of those steps and take months to sort out. I’m probably wrong here, but their projection seems really really optimistic.

DC Rainmaker, has begun to seal on it..
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/04/limits-power-meter.html

I think that a lot of people are now interested in power because of smart trainers. I never knew anything about my wattage until just a couple of months ago. I have never raced, but I am a serious recreational rider. My training since getting back on the bike 10 years ago while in my mid-40’s and now being in my mid-50’s was to ride farther and harder. Now, when the winter is over, I’m going to want to know my power numbers on my “real” rides. I am interested in something simple and inexpensive and within 5% accuracy would also be fine as long as it is consistent. In my 20’s I laid my bike down and pedaled hard around curves! In my 50’s….not so much! If there was something available in the 100 to 200 dollar range that was fairly accurate, I would go for it.