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AMP Stops by with 8.8g Carbon Disc Brake Pads & New Affordable Podium Series

amp carbone sl carbon fiber backed disc brake pads for road bikes
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AMP’s original product was the Carbone brake pads, which use a full carbon fiber backing plate to provide the ultimate thermal shielding and vibration reduction. They claim the carbon fiber has 38x lower heat conductivity than steel and 280x lower than aluminum, the two materials most commonly used for disc brake pads. The result is that they run cooler and won’t dump braking heat into the pistons, then calipers, then fluid.

amp carbone sl carbon fiber backed disc brake pads for road bikes

The Carbone pads come in at 13.7g, but the new AMP Carbone SL chop that to 8.8g for Dura-Ace/Ultegra brake pads, including the spring. SRAM brakes are just a hair heavier at 9.7g, all of which is much lighter than the 17g stock Shimano pads with the cooling fins.

The Carbone SL versions use a carbon-backed alloy backplate design, yet AMP says these provide similar heat reduction as the full carbon ones. They’re offered in limited quantities and fit Shimano DA/Ultegra and 2020 and newer SRAM road brakes, and come with their Ceramic pad material, which is designed for high intensity, long duration braking power. MSRP is €45 per wheel.

AMP Podium disc brake pads

amp podium ceramic coated disc brake pads for mountain bikes

Coming in much less expensive are the all-new AMP Podium brake pads, which range from €15-35 depending on brake model and pad material. Choose from Organic or Metallic (Sintered) and they have options for Shimano, SRAM, Formula, Hope, Hayes, and Magura.

Aimed at the broader trail and gravity market, they’re offered in 2- and 4-piston models (some of which also fit Shimano road brakes) and use a ceramic-coated steel back plate.

amp podium ceramic coated disc brake pads for mountain bikes

Why not carbon? They say that extremely steep terrain where you’re moving slower and braking harder doesn’t allow enough air flow to move the heat off the pads, and since it’s not going into the carbon, it just didn’t make sense here.

AMP says the WinShield Ceramic Coating still reduces the amount of heat moving into the caliper 5-10% more than traditional brake pads will – enough to keep the system in equilibrium but still provide better braking performance.

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Fake Namerton
Fake Namerton
9 months ago

Meanwhile my GSXR-1000’s brake pads with steel backing plates get pounded for 8 20 minutes sessions on a track day after track day in the A group and every weekend in the twisties sometimes with two riders and the brake fluid still looks good when I bleed it every 6 months.

Last edited 9 months ago by Fake Namerton
B9Nissen
B9Nissen
2 months ago
Reply to  Fake Namerton

I was using the organic pads my entire 2021 season. The AMP pads did their job!
I ride Mtb marathon races and mainly in the alps, so plenty of very long and nasty descents have been done. Not a single time did brake fade occurred. When they first were bedded in, the brake power was there.
They are not noisy, but they are also not quiet.
In my opinion, they are for sure the money worth in the standard carbon version.

Dolan Halbrook
Dolan Halbrook
9 months ago

More carbon fiber in landfills to save 9g per wheel. I’m the first to admit i’m a weight weenie, but this is ridiculous.

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  Dolan Halbrook

Thanks for your comment!
We have a used pads gathering program since the very beginning of the AMP brand.
We have several industrial and research partners in sight in order to make the best possible use of our waste when gathered quantities will be sufficient to setup recycling processes.

Wousera
Wousera
9 months ago

This marketing B*llcr*p is getting to another level. The carbon introduces a lower heat flux from the pad to the caliper so there is less cooling of of the pad and disc as an effect the pads and disc will be way hotter and will glaze/warp quicker which. Shimano and others have introduced heat fins to increase heat dissipations of the pads because of these problems and yet these guys think it’s a good idea to do the opposite of insulating the pads. This “solution” is like chopping of your foot because your toe hurts.

Tom.L
Tom.L
8 months ago
Reply to  Wousera

You’re forgetting these are only for XC and road

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  Wousera

Thanks for the input! Sorry for the delayed answer, we were not aware of this article.

Keeping the heat from dissipating into the caliper does not mean you “block” the heat near the pads/rotor contact patch.
When rolling at sufficient speed, the air flow has an incredible dissipation power and can easily dissipate most of the braking heat. However, that dissipation power is partially wasted if the heat is already in the caliper.

Tim
Tim
9 months ago

Ceramic or organic friction pad material is made with polyphenol resins acting as a binder. This resin can operate very well up to 300C. However if you shield it with carbon or some “ceramic paint” the heat has no place to go. Friction material will quickly overheat, burn and you will loose most of its performance in short time by experiencing fading. So while they say your caliper will not overheat they forgot to mention that your brakes will fade fast.

This is why best pads on the market have radiators – to remove that heat from the pads and keep them as cool as possible. Heat has to go somewhere.

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  Tim

Hey Tim,
Please see our answer to the comment above to get insights of how our products work.
Thanks a lot for the input!

Kieselguhr-Kid
Kieselguhr-Kid
9 months ago

Given the issues with heat related failure in the braking tack on carbon rims I have to question the use of the same material as the backing plate to a brake pad that would be subjected to more heat.

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  Kieselguhr-Kid

Thanks a lot for your comment.
Carbon rims are subjected to various load cases. Our pads are only subjected to transverse compression. Moreover, we have thouroughly tested our pads both on testing machines and extreme real world riding to ensure they would endure the most extreme conditions.

JDR
JDR
9 months ago

this doesn’t make sense, as mentioned here, the friction compound will glaze and you will lose braking performance. A good brake pad will pull the heat from the friction compound and rotor, and dissipate it as fast as possible before it gets transferred into the caliper/fluid.
cooling fins are the way to go, steel backplates too

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  JDR

Thanks for your interest.
You can see our reply in one of the comments above to get some answers.
Have a great day!

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
9 months ago

Yeah. Cuz. Brake pads are friggin HEAVY, guy!

* E Y E R O L L *

RideAMP
8 months ago
Reply to  Dirt McGirt

A World Record is always made to be beat, right?

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