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Hustle Bike Labs tease REM magnetic flat pedals for MTB, best of clipless and flats?

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Hustle Bike Labs are on the precipice of releasing their REM magnetic flat pedals for mountain biking, combining the the connection of a clipless pedal, with its improved pedalling efficiency, but the freedom of a flat pedal with safer release options. We know very little about these magnetic flat pedals, only the little that can be gleaned from this single image and this interview with founder, Craig Payne. However, they’re about to be officially introduced in less than a month.

Hustle REM magnetic flat pedals

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What do we actually know?

Hustle say the REM magnetic pedals offer “the ease-of-use and increased contact area of platforms without the issue of slipping off prematurely; and the improved efficiency and stability of clipless without getting “locked in.” The pedal looks a lot more like a traditional flat platform pedal than a clipless pedal, with a CNC-machined platform with nine pins, surrounding the circular magnets at the centre, mounted on what looks to be a polymer base.

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The magnets rotate! Photo from Hustle Bike Labs instagram feed. (@hustlebikelabs)

And, if you look closely at the above photo from Hustle’s Instagram feed, you’ll see that the central piece holding the magnets can rotate within the pedal platform. This would be a major difference from other magnetic pedals like the MagLOCK which has a fixed center section with the magnets under a stainless steel plate. Theoretically, this could make the Hustle pedals feel more like a standard clipless pedal, but with easier egress.

What we can’t infer from the photos is just how strong those magnets will be, and what shoe they will be paired with. As far as we know, Hustle Bike Labs haven’t been working on a complimentary shoe, thus we’re assuming it will use a steel cleat like MagLOCK to pair with the REM magnetic flat pedals specifically.

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REM magnetic MTB pedals on the trail. Photo from Hustle Bike Labs instagram feed

Most mountain bike riders have a seriously strong preference for either clipless pedals or flat platform pedals, with very few, that I know of, flitting between the two. I personally ride flats but have often considered transitioning to clipless pedals for the improved pedalling efficiency and the fact that you no longer need to worry about where your feet are on the pedals; they’re exactly where they need to be. That is until you crash, and end up in a horrible tangled mess with your bike on top of you; it is my fear of that unfortunate event occurring that has prevented me, and many others, thus far.

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REM magnetic flat pedals on the trail. Photo from Hustle Bike Labs instagram feed (@hustlebikelabs)

Founder of Hustle Bike Labs, Craig Payne, was on clipless pedals the day he came a cropper while riding knife-edge single track in Moab Utah, sparking his desire to design the REM magnetic flat pedals. In his words, “I’m riding one of the iconic trails in this magical landscape; my adrenaline was high. The biggest challenge of the ride is just around the corner. The trail is now becoming very narrow. There’s a canyon wall on my left and, on my right, is a cliff…the Colorado River several hundred feet below. I’m riding that thin line between confidence and fear. What happened next nearly killed me. I’m approaching a rock garden too fast, bounce off a boulder, and it causes me to lose my balance. The only way to stay in control is to use my feet. However, I’m clipped into the pedal and cannot release them fast enough. I’m falling, rolling, and now holding onto to a boulder. My legs are hanging over the cliff edge. All of this could have been avoided if I could have quickly released my shoe away from the pedal.”

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REM magnetic flat pedals on the BECKS trail. Photo from Hustle Bike Labs instagram feed. (@hustlebikelabs)

At that moment, Craig realized he had a problem that needed to be solved but it wasn’t until later that he realized many other mountain bikers share this pain as well. Now, post R&D, Craig is set to show the Hustle REM magnetic flat pedals for the first time at OR Winter, where Hustle Bike Labs have been listed as finalists for the Outdoor Retailer Innovation Awards 2020.

Pricing & Availability

No word on pricing, but we’ve heard that the REM magnetic flat pedals will be shipped in Spring, and will be at Sea Otter Classic in April. Hit the link below, bash your email address into the space provided, and wait to be one of the first to hear the juicy details of the magnetic MTB pedals.

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ice2breaker
4 years ago

“the day he came a cropper”

What?

Corey Coddington
Corey Coddington
4 years ago
Reply to  ice2breaker

Yeah… huh.

EdBooth
EdBooth
4 years ago
Reply to  ice2breaker

Australian slang for having a crash.
Cheers.

Drew Diller
4 years ago

Color me interested. I ride flats by preference, and the only nitpick I can really make is that precisely locating one’s foot while not looking is not as easy as clip-in pedals. A magnet would help me find “home” easier on flat pedals.

The only rub is that neodymium is not cheap and it is really dense and brittle. That said, I’m in.

Tyler
Tyler
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew Diller

Neodymium itself is brittle, but N52 neodymium magnets with Ni+Cu+Ni 3 layer coating are extremely durable and the coating prevents corrosion

Justin White
4 years ago

“I personally ride flats but have often considered transitioning to clipless pedals for the improved pedalling efficiency and the fact that you no longer need to worry about where your feet are on the pedals; they’re exactly where they need to be. That is until you crash, and end up in a horrible tangled mess with your bike on top of you; it is my fear of that unfortunate event occurring that has prevented me, and many others, thus far.”

Your anti-clips argument is a good one. I would add that the sub/un-conscious reluctance to unclip can cause delays and thus issues in situations where a foot out, even just for balance, would save the day. However, your pro-clips arguments aren’t quite as good. The pedaling efficiency has been shown with empirical evidence to be pretty small for the average person. Even a pro isn’t doubling their power with clips – as proponents sometimes like to claim – they might grab 15% more with much practice and training. And the claim that clips always put you in the right place on the pedal is based on a terrible assumption: that the “correct” place for your foot never moves! That’s ridiculous for a mountain bike. It’s hugely advantageous to be able to move your foot slightly and gives better knee and hip mobility. And of course that you can smash your foot back on the pedal without clips is just huge. I don’t care how big the platform on those trail clips are, when you’re not in the alleged “perfect spot”, either the cleat or the clip mechanism will be protruding and causing mechanical interference, that’s just a fact.

Stick with flats unless you’re racing in order to be able to put food on your table. It’s way more fun!

Frank
Frank
4 years ago
Reply to  Justin White

15% increase in efficiency for clipless is HUGE. That’s 9 minutes on a 1-hour climb.

Dylan
Dylan
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank

15% increase in power doesn’t mean 15% increase in efficiency, and clipping in won’t magically allow you to puller higher W/kg for an hour. Studies on roadies found only minuscule improvements in efficiency.

blahblah1233445
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank

It’s 15% for pedals, which is like a fraction of all the drag You get from aerodynamics, bearings, chain etc… So think of it as 0,xx% overall…

Frank
Frank
4 years ago

I think people worry way too much about being able to clip out “in an emergency”. Granted, I’ve been riding lipless for like 25 years now, but I never have any trouble clipping out instantly when I need to. Maybe the clean design of the Eggbeaters I use are easier to get out of than other pedals. I will say they are a LOT easier to get out of than the Mallets. Those I do have some delay in release at times. YMMV.

johnnyMay
johnnyMay
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank

right? maybe on the first week with the 737’s but now clipping out before I’m pile drives into the dirt is second nature.

bearcatsandor
bearcatsandor
4 years ago
Reply to  Frank

I’ve never ridden lipless, but that sounds very dangerous to me. How do you keep the bugs out of your teeth? At least you’re always smiling.

procopiom@yahoo.com
procopiom@yahoo.com
4 years ago

Magnetic. Wait until you see how much iron based crap is everywhere on the ground. It will clog up the pedal and because the cleat will get magnatized if not already, will get even more when you put your foot down on the ground. Will fail. Has been tried before on road bikes.

Bob C
Bob C
4 years ago

Drag a magnet through sand and watch the iron filings pile up…. Imagine constantly having to wipe iron filings off of these pedals as they accumulate over time…. Total pain. Imagine the magnets in the shoes picking up iron filings with each step on bare ground and crunching under foot when you transition to floors.

I don’t regard this as a real world solution.

I love riding flats — and modern flats with decent pins are plenty good for me.

Kovas
4 years ago
Reply to  Bob C

Bob, this is actually a plus for the rest of us… The fewer rusty nails, staples, sharp metal bits of all sorts, on the trails, graciously picked up by these magnets, the better!

Bob C
Bob C
4 years ago
Reply to  Kovas

Haha! Brilliant point! I’ve been thinking of this the wrong way!

Walrus
Walrus
4 years ago

I want these on my BMX, paired up with some magnetic pegs, to do some circus grinds

Kylnman
Kylnman
4 years ago

“Clipless” is a misnomer. It refers to the Neanderthal use of worthless toe clips for a time on mountain pedals. By this definition, flats are also clipless pedals. Rather, clip “in” pedals, akin to ski bindings.

Gillis
Gillis
4 years ago
Reply to  Kylnman

It’s industry standard nomenclature, get over it.

David Tidy
David Tidy
4 years ago

What no one has realised so far is that you will have limited shoes that will work and all of them will be crap with flat pedals as they have a shank in the shoe. Proper flat shoes at flexible to allow your foot to flex and grip, having a stiff shoe on flats is a recipe for disaster.

adamrice
4 years ago

As much as I like the idea of this, I have a hard time believing these magnets would provide a meaningful amount of retention force.

LemondRider
LemondRider
4 years ago

Mavic failed with the same idea 20 years ago!

carlos
carlos
4 years ago

The improved pedallng efficiency is somewhere between zero and a small negative %. There’s not one single study out there that shows clips are more efficient. They have the advantage of keeping the foot attached to the pedal, which is useful for pedalling on steep climbs or bouncy sections. That’s it.

gibboon
gibboon
4 years ago
Reply to  carlos

Yeah that’s why all pro road riders use flat pedals……so obvious really.

ed
ed
4 years ago
Reply to  carlos

try em. There is a reason most pedals are clipless and myth isn’t the reason.

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