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Orange Intradrive collab prototypes Strange Phase MX Gearbox eBike – Eurobike 2022

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Last week, Orange Bikes were showing the latest Strange prototype at their Eurobike stand; a euro-centric build of the Phase MX eMTB, but not as you know it. The production Phase MX runs a Shimano EP8 motor, with a 630Wh battery and a regular 12-speed drivetrain, but the Strange prototype we saw had a very different drive unit. For this bike, Orange partnered with Scottish Company, Intradrive, incorporating their 8-speed Belt-Driven Powertrain into the frame. And, it might actually make it to production.

Orange Phase MX Strange Prototype

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eMTBs are renowned for their capacity to chew through traditional drivetrain parts. The regular rear derailleur simply isn’t built to withstand the consistently elevated torque that comes with a motor, and, it’s ever so easy to mindlessly shift through gears while applying lots of power to the pedals. It makes a lot of sense then that eBikes are excellent candidates for the array of alternative drivetrains on the market.

While internal hub gearing appears to have found a suitable niche on commuter bikes, that technology isn’t necessarily the most suitable for eMTBs, especially full suspension ones. Modern linkages tend to focus on keeping the bike’s weight centered around the bottom bracket, minimizing unsprung mass for efficiency and ride feel. Thus, an internal hub gear would negate those efforts, increasing unsprung mass at the rear wheel considerably.

intradrive 8 speed gearbox ebike motor on orange phase mx eurobike 2022
Intradrive run their company on the principles of a circular economy, building their Powertrain “to outperform and outlast”. They used recycled materials and renewable energy to manufacture all of their products.

Enter Intradrive, an Edinburgh company manufacturing an 8 Speed Powertrain that combines an eBike motor with a gearbox. Combining these two functions at the bottom bracket results in a bike with reduced unsprung mass, running a drivetrain that is less vulnerable to damage from on-trail features, and requires less maintenance. It is the future of eBikes, surely. 

Intradrive are by no means they first to execute this. French company Valeo has teamed up with Effigear to produce the Cyclee Drive Unit that also features an automatic shift mode in additional to the manual mode. For those interested, that appears to have found its way onto a drool-worthy Cavalerie, though that too is still under prototyping.

intradrive 8 s peed powertrain non drive side view on orange phase mx strange prototype

I digress. At Eurobike, we caught up with Kelvin Lawton at Orange Bikes to find out more about the Strange Phase MX. This one made us stop and stare, not just because of the unusual drive unit, but also because of the parts list. Almost everything on the bike has come out of Europe, with most of the componentry actually developed in the UK.

pinnd pedals cs2 model on orange phase mx eurobike

Of course, the frame itself is hand-built in Halifax, England, as are all bikes from Orange. The brakes, hubs and handlebar are made in Old Barnoldswick by Hope Technology, the headset in Lincoln by Superstar Components, the dropper seat post in West Sussex by USE, while the pedals are manufactured in Scotland by Pinnd. Further afield, the Intend Edge fork and Hover shock are hand built in Germany, the saddle is made by Selle Italia in Italy, while the tires are made by Mitas, a company based in the Czech Republic. 

intend hover shock on ornage phase mx strange prototype eurobike 2022
We can’t help but be reminded of the Fox Dyad RT2 when we look at Intend’s Hover Air Shock

And, finally, the Intradrive Drive Unit, its 630 Wh battery, shifter and display interface are all manufactured at Intradrive’s facility in Edinburgh, Scotland, as is the crankset actually. It is an 8 Speed Powertrain with electronic shifting, and relies upon a Gates Carbon Drive to deliver power to the rear wheel, giving it the look of a single-speed bicycle. Effigear are responsible for the chain tensioner.

gates carbon belt drive on orange phase mx prototype with intradrive 8 speed powertrain motor gearbox

effigear chain tensioner on orange phase mx intradrive prototype gearbox emtb

It offers a 430% gear range and a maximum torque output of 80 Nm. It looks to be a bit wider than some eBike motors. Indeed, it produces a 57mm chainline, as opposed to the regular 52mm chainline you’ll see on modern mountain bikes with Boost rear-end spacing. The drive unit as a whole weighs a claimed 4.9 kg, comparable to that of the Valeo/Effigear unit.

intradrive 8 speed powertrain 57mm chainline

Kelvin tells us this is the standard Orange Phase MX frameset. As the Intradrive Drive Unit shares the same mounting points as the Shimano EP8, and their battery battery envelope is the same as the Shimano one, both fit straight onto the frame without the need for any special adapters. That made it pretty straightforward for Orange to start working with Intradrive.

The Strange prototype is still very much a work in progress, but Kelvin says he sees no real reason why they can’t pursue this with Intradrive to eventually bring this bike to production. It seems there’s still a bit of work to do, though; the bike on show was lacking torque and speed sensors. Routing for the latter still needs to be worked out, as does routing for all the other cables, and a cover for the drive unit will need to be fabricated to cover the significant gap between the drive unit and underside of the frame. Kelvin also noted that, given how far south the chainline is of the main pivot, they will need to reconsider its position in order to keep the bike’s anti-squat, and other kinematic parameters, in check.

intradrive gearbox emtb orange phase mx prototype grip shifter electronic shifting

The Phase MX you see here isn’t actually rideable, for lack of speed and torque sensors, but Orange have a rideable prototype back in England that is being tested as we speak. Kelvin from Orange hasn’t ridden that, but has ridden the Intradrive system on another unnamed bike. He was quick to point out the advantages of the total freedom to shift under load and the lack of a vulnerable rear mech. 

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1 year ago

This approach is something the market is waiting for but making it compact and quiet is a challenge. What TQ has recently achieved with constant mesh gears is a step change within the e-bike industry, the same design leap is necessary before such multi-gear power trains can become mainstream.
Thanks for the piece Jessie-May. Just a hint – replace “ways” with “weighs”

1 year ago
Reply to  Carlton

problem is TQ motors fail like ladas and they are a terrible company to work with, you get met with nothing but arrogance from them, we had constant mechanical and electrical failures, support was non existent

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