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Salsa hits the road, trail, and gravel with updated Fargo Plus, Cutthroat, All Road Vaya, & more

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Whatever your path, Salsa continues to have your covered. Along with the mountain bike line up fro 2017 that includes some wild bikes like the 3-in-1 wheeled Woodsmoke, Salsa has a number of updated bikes for the road with drop bars. Thanks to the adventurous nature of their bikes, just because they have drop bars doesn’t make them a road bike. Instead, the curvy bars can be found on bikes that will take you any where you want to go – even on bikes with plus sized tires. Obviously, Salsa isn’t the first to run drop bars on essentially a mountain bike, but the rise of bike packing and adventure racing is making what was old, new again.

When it comes to the Salsa Fargo, the bike meant for bike packing, or just cruising offroad gets updated for 2017 with another 3-in-1 wheel set up. Thanks to Boost spacing and additional frame clearance, the Fargo is now capable of running 27+, 29″, or even 29+ wheels and tires making it easier than ever to pick the right wheel set up and getting out of town…

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With the launch of the Cutthroat last year that was meant for Tour Divide type racing, Salsa had a chance to go back and redesign the Fargo to make it more adventurous. The Cobra Kai chromoly frame features external butting and includes either a carbon Firestarter or steel fork which includes Lowrider and Triple mounts, as well as mounts for dynamo lights and fenders. The Alternator dropouts adjust for the difference in wheel size between the three sizes and are capable of running Boost, 142×12, or even 135mm hubs with the Alternator reduction plates. Frame clearance is listed as 3.0″ on an i45 rim.

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All of the sizes except the XS will be able to run 29+, though the bikes will be sold in either 27+ or 29″. The 27+ Rival 1 build will go for $2,299 with a frameset available for $899, and the 29″ GX build with a 2×10 will sell for $1,699.

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Even though the Cutthroat was just introduced, it’s already getting a few upgrades. Notably, the addition of top tube mounts for the new EXP top tube bag, and a new fork. The fork includes internally routed wiring for dynamo lights and a center mount for the light as well as three pack mounts on the legs. The carbon frame continues with their Class 5 VRS vibration reduction system and is thru axle front and rear with the Carbon Force 1 hydro build above selling for $3,999 or $1,999 for the frameset.

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Built more for all road, gravel, or light touring, the All Road Vaya sees a few updates for 2017 including an all new $1,099 price point with Shimano Claris 8 speed. The chromoly frame is paired with either a steel or carbon fork, that is front and rear rack compatible, fender compatible, and will fit up to 47mm tires with 3 bottle mounts. Pricing will range from the $1099 Claris build to the $1,399 Deore build which includes better spec this year with tubeless ready rims and tires for $100 less, and the $1,799 GX build with framesets available for $799.

 

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The Warbird continues as their Gravel race bike with either carbon or aluminum frames and a carbon fork. New for this year is the addition of fender mounts on the frame and fork so you can race your gravel and train in the wet as well. Tire clearance is limited to 42mm for the aluminum frames and 44mm for the carbon frames, and pricing will range from $2,299 to $3,999 with carbon framesets available for $1,999

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For the Marrakesh drop bar builds, Salsa is partnering with the Adventure Cycling Association for a Limited Edition build that will be auctioned off in limited numbers to benefit the ACA. The ACA LE build will include a custom matched Brooks saddle and ACA graphics on the chromoly expedition, world touring frame.

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Non ACA LE builds will still include a matched Brooks saddle and include Alternator Low Deck rear racks. The frames are Rohloff compatible, kickstand compatible, and will fit up to 700 x 50mm tires with a $1,599 retail.

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Salsa will also be offering a flat bar Marrakesh with specific flat bar geometry for the same price.

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Joun K.
Joun K.
6 years ago

How does the Warbird still not have rack mounts? So called “gravel race” bikes get ridden as light tourers and commuters. Who at Salsa honestly believes that “gravel race” is a category unto itself?

dave
dave
6 years ago
Reply to  Joun K.

it may be that the frame is underbuilt for loaded riding.

Pat J
6 years ago
Reply to  Joun K.

They added fender mounts, and maybe the fact that Salsa couldn’t keep these bikes in stock last year would confirm that “gravel race” is a category. Or the fact that 200mile races like Dirty Kanza are selling out each year. Not everything needs to double as a commuter, buy a Vaya it will better fit your needs. Rack clearance messes up geo, and adds unnecessary weight. I wish my aero road bike would accept a rohloff belt drive hub so I could ride 3 miles to work, but also bikepack, but also road race, but also I need it to accept 26×4″ tires so I can ride in the sand and snow. Just buy the bike you want.

Kernel Flickitov
Kernel Flickitov
6 years ago
Reply to  Joun K.

Why don’t all pure road race bikes have rack mounts? Why don’t all mtb’s have suspension and full gears? In 2016 how does one come not to realize that there is actual gravel races with actual podiums?

Cory
Cory
6 years ago
Reply to  Joun K.

I have a 2016 Warbird and I just load it out with Revelate’s catalog… does plenty well for me…

Alex
Alex
6 years ago
Reply to  Joun K.

Because if you need rack mounts, buy a vaya.

Dan
Dan
6 years ago

Thank you for the good shoot of the chainring clearance! You have confirmed that I can get the new Fargo and run something bigger than a 36t if needed!

Now, to get the bike or the frame and build it up…..

Ryan S.
Ryan S.
6 years ago

It’s worth mentioning that the new Fargos can also now run a belt.

TomM
TomM
6 years ago

Can someone explain the use case for drop bars on a fat tire bike, particularly a fat tire bike with a super tall headtube? Can’t be aerodynamics. From riding my cyclocross bike a few times on singletrack, it can’t be better control and ergonomics than a flat bar, because it’s worse I’m pretty sure most of us would agree.

dave
dave
6 years ago
Reply to  TomM

multiple hand positions == less fatigue on long rides (at least for some). also novelty, I would guess.

dr_lha
dr_lha
6 years ago
Reply to  TomM

Plus some of us just plain like using drop bars, on any type of bike.

paquo
paquo
6 years ago

yea huge tires on a road frame, brilliant. Since road bars are just awesome for “cruising offroad” with plus tires, so stupid

Rider X
6 years ago
Reply to  paquo

The first mountain bikes had “road bars” in a more upright position, so we are actually coming full circle. The “road bars” currently used in off road riding often have a lot more which puts you in an intermediate position between real road bars and classic MTB straight or riser bars, and is actually similar to the original dirt drops used by Cunningham et al during the early MTB years.

If you are trying to rip super technical single track, yes dirt drops can quickly get outclassed, But for less technical, endurance off road riding it actually works quite well as you have lots of different hand positions.

Cryogenii
Cryogenii
6 years ago
Reply to  Rider X

No, they didn’t really. Some riders like John Thomas raced XC on drops, but early clunkers were all straight or moustache bars. I’m old sonny, don’t argue with Grandpa.

Rick
Rick
6 years ago

Paquo, some of us like the big wheels Brother! They work really well where I live. Once up to speed they absolutely fly.

Kyle R
Kyle R
6 years ago

Any chance there will be an update with actual weights?

T-iles
T-iles
6 years ago

@Dan – I’m running a 38t WT ring on the new fargo and it’s $$$$$$

Dan
Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  T-iles

you have the 2017 model already? Also is that with a boost or normal chainline crank? looking more and more like the 2017 fargo will be my N+1

John
John
6 years ago

So instead of finally adding thru axle support to the Ti Vaya, Salsa killed it? Niiiiiiice.

Maybe I’ll buy a Seven Evergreen or Litespeed T5 instead…

Lawrence
Lawrence
6 years ago
Reply to  John

JOHN, consider a Moots Routt 45. Titanium dream. I’ve had mine about a month and I love it. Such a nice sense of security when ripping downhill.

gringo
gringo
6 years ago

I am a big fan of my Fargo, but cannot help but think that this new one is a bit of a marketing gimmick. BB height anyone??

__Zach, can you post BB heights for the Fargo with the 3 different wheel sizes? 27+ and 29 are not nearly as close in size as we have all been led to believe and 29+ is another story altogether. How can any Brand possibly say with a straight face that a bike will ride equally well with all 3 sizes considering the very long list of design compromises required in order to fit all sizes.

Any comments Zach?

Richard Elsdon
6 years ago
Reply to  gringo

BB drop is 70mm, that’s 10mm more than a Krampus but 10mm less than an ECR. Do the math for actual BB height.

Jason Miles
6 years ago
Reply to  gringo

It is interesting that they are recommending 3 different wheel sizes. If you look at the current Fargo in the FAQ section Salsa specifically spells out that you can’t change out your wheel size.

“Can I run 27.5” (650b) rims and tires on this frameset?”

“No, you cannot. That wheel size is significantly smaller than the 29er wheels the bike is designed for.”

http://salsacycles.com/bikes/fargo/2016_fargo_x9

Dan
Dan
6 years ago
Reply to  Jason Miles

Jason, that is for the 2016 model. The above information is referring to the revamped 2017 model.

Groghunter
Groghunter
6 years ago
Reply to  Jason Miles

That also seems like outdated ad copy talking about normal 27.5, not plus.

Gef
Gef
6 years ago

I’m disappointed at the lack of a dynamo light mount on the carbon fork for the Vaya. I’ll have to keep the steel fork for now.

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