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TRP x Classified Launch Vistar Wireless 1×16 Drivetrain!

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Last year’s premium mechanical mountain bike drivetrain was just a warmup to TRP’s big drivetrain ambitions, and now, along with Classified, they’re unveiling two wireless, electronic-shifting wide-range 1x groups for both road and gravel bikes!

Called Vistar // Powershift, the group pairs a wireles derailleur and 12-speed cassette with Classified’s two-speed internally geared hubs, they achieve a wider range of unique gears – up to 530% range with an 11-40 cassette.

That’s massive range. For perspective, Shimano’s 10-51 mountain bike cassettes have 510% range. SRAM’s 10-52 Eagle cassette has 520% range. And now you can get 530% on your gravel bike with a 10-40 cassette and simple 1x chainring. That’s really cool, but it’s the execution that makes this really something special…

Manual shifting, automatic gear selection

With just 12 cogs, Classified says you’re getting the equivalent of 15 or 16 unique gears, depending on which cassette you choose. They haven’t unveiled all of the options yet (stay tuned, they’re launching this at Eurobike and we’ll update this post with more tech details soon), but there should be gearing options that prioritize cadence and gear steps for roadies, or more range for gravel cyclists.

Because it’s all electric, and it’s all part of the same system now (as opposed to pairing a Classified hub with 3rd party derailleurs & shifters), everything can work together harmoniously, and they call this symphony of shifting QuantumShift.

With QuantumShift turned on, you can simply shift up or down and it will automatically shift the derailleur or the hub (or both) to give you the smallest gear step possible in either direction. This effectively gives you 15 to 16 individual gears.

Turn it off and you can shift through the cassette and hub manually, giving you 24 gears just like a normal 2×12 drivetrain, albeit with some duplication of gear ratios.

Eliminating the downsides

trp classified vistar powershift 1x15 gravel bike wireless shifting drivetrain.

With Classified’s 2x hubs, which are widely considered a gamechanger (try one if you can), the downsides have been that you need to add a third shifter pod to your handlebar, and you need to use their proprietary modified cassettes on an otherwise SRAM, Shimano, or Campagnolo group.

Now, they have a complete system that takes advantage of TRP’s existing HyWire-style electronic shifters and proven hydraulic braking, same as what’s used with Pinion’s electronic shifting gearbox system. This gives you a familiar set of controls, with shifter paddles in all the usual places.

It also gives you the aerodynamic advantages of a 1x chainring, and lets you quickly change chainring size based on course conditions. Chainline can be better, and you can use a more efficient larger chainring up front since the hub’s easier gear acts like a small chainring.

Two cranksets are offered – the Classified aero chainset with solid chainring, or the Vistar crankset with lighter direct-mount chainrings.

You’ll still need to use their wheels, or have their hub built with your favorite rims and spokes. There are a lot of brands on board offering Classified-compatible wheelsets, though, and I imagine options will continue to expand with this announcement.

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Mr. Jeff Servaas
Mr. Jeff Servaas
2 days ago

Can existing Classified systems be upgraded?

luis raventos
2 days ago

Nice option!

Robert
Robert
2 days ago

Tyler must have writing assistance or researchers to help him put together a dozen stories per week doing the maths .

Billyshoo
Billyshoo
1 day ago
Reply to  Robert

Or he works hard?

anon_prof
anon_prof
2 days ago

This doesn’t mention a downside for me (and I imagine others) that seems blatantly obvious: wheel interchangeability. If you switch wheels around as a lot of people do with gravel bikes, especially if you use yours on both road and gravel as certain bikes are explicitly marketed to do (e.g. Vitus Venon), you’re locked into the rear wheel that uses the classified hub.

Gary P
Gary P
2 days ago
Reply to  anon_prof

This true, but at least the mechanical bits of the hub are separate from the hub shell. You can buy a second wheel set with just the classified hub shell, an transfer the mechanical shifty stuff from the first hub over.

C money
C money
2 days ago

The lengths we will go to in order to avoid a front derailleur.

Tnarg
Tnarg
1 day ago
Reply to  C money

Verum quod.

ShopMechanic
ShopMechanic
17 hours ago
Reply to  C money

This is a stepping stone towards a similar system for MTB. That’s the really big application use case. And since MTBs need bigger gear jumps, you can reduce the number of gears on the cassette to 9 or 10, possibly even 8. That lets you push chain lines outboard to make room for wider suspension pivots or entire linkages. Plus you get a tiny bump in efficiency and chain wear that comes with not having to cross chain. Lastly you can build hubs with wider flanges for improved spoke and rim longevity and make wheelsets that use the same spoke lengths for both wheels without making compromises in flange heights.

FrenchPress
FrenchPress
2 days ago

I want the MTB version of this!

Matt
Matt
2 days ago

I don’t know about “quickly changing chainring size due to course conditions”. Chainring size affects chain length which affects shifting accuracy.

Xc_racer
Xc_racer
20 hours ago
Reply to  Matt

Nah, you just need to add those teeth back to the derailleur pulley to even things out.

Swapping a 36 to a 30T chainring?
Change you lower pulley from an 11T to a 17T.
Swapping a 42T down to a 32T?
Change you lower pulley from an 11T to a 1T.

JBikes
JBikes
1 day ago

How is chainline improved?

ShopMechanic
ShopMechanic
17 hours ago
Reply to  JBikes

1x rings sit between where 2x rings would be. Of course that will make chain lines worse in the extreme lowest and highest gears, but better or no worse in all the other gears.

King County
King County
1 day ago

it is great that packaged that hub with TRP. I’d like to see this catch on. This is ‘1-upping’ drivetrains a bit. Besides the positives in the article, if your derailleur breaks you’d still have a 2nd gear in a pinch.

Raul D
Raul D
3 hours ago

I’m looking forward to someday seeing data on the marginal gain/losses of using Classified’s planetary gear hub.

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