Boyd Cycling’s founder Boyd Johnson has long been a proponent of tubeless tires for road bikes, even offering to set mine up for me before testing his Altamont wheels years ago at the Baller’s Ride. Lately, he’s been working on his own Tickled Pink tubeless sealant, and this video test makes it look pretty impressive. If you’re near his Greenville, SC, headquarters (check out our tour here!) and want to test some in exchange for feedback, let him know. Oh, and you can vote for them to win a FedEx Small Business Grant, too!
Agreed. It seals fast if the sealant and particulate can get to the puncture, but it cant if its rotating… Multiple revs will be needed before the puncture is sealed completely, and there is pressure lost for each rev… I still think that the wheel will have enough pressure to be ridden and then boosted with c02, but to me this isn’t really an accurate example of an on road puncture.
We have done some testing with the spinning wheel as well (in a truing stand). It did spray sealant for a couple revolutions and then stopped. It was done to the same tire from the video, which now has well over 100 sealed holes in it!
We are also giving out close to 100 bottles for free to cyclists in the Greenville area to test in all road and off road situations. And probably the most fun test is I am building a board with a bunch of roofing nails sticking through and will attempt to ride over that. . .maybe even no handed!
Basically, we want to test this quite a bit before selling it. I am probably going to mix up a few hundred more 8 oz. bottles pretty soon to give away at some of the events we are doing (like Sea Otter, the Belgium Waffle Ride, and Gran Fondo New York).
Will have to test! Part of what a tubeless tire seal up so well is that you only need to seal the tire itself. . .not an inner tube and a tire.
With tubular tires, you have an inner tube that is sewn inside the casing. Any puncture means that a puncture has occurred in both the casing and the inner tube. Not impossible to seal as there are plenty of good tubular sealants out there. It just becomes more difficult to guarantee a good seal. There are also different demands for sealing a latex or a butyl inner tube.
I know I have some old cyclocross tubulars laying around. Sounds like it’s almost time for a YouTube series of “Will it seal?”
Are there any sealant comparisons/shootouts anywhere? E.g. a controlled conditions comparison of Stans / Joes no flats / OrangeSeal / Caffelatex etc? Videos are great fun (haven’t watched this one, but guessing it’s similar to the ones Stans did a decade ago), but don’t really tell us whether one sealant works any better than another. In my own limited experience (I’ve only tried Stans and Joes, and only MTB) they both seem about the same. The only flats I have had in the last 8 years running tubeless have been due to cuts in the sidewall (no sealant up there), or so big they were never going to seal (1 cm stick through the centre of the tread). Sometimes I wonder if the sealant is doing anything at all beyond sealing the initial leaks when installing a tire. The only punctures I used to get when running tubes were due to pinch flats, we don’t have thorns, screws or nails littering our MTB tracks.
Hi Boyd, what pressure was the tire at before and after the puncture/seal? Did you add any air after the test to get it to 90 PSI or did you start at above >90 PSI, and after the test, it was at 90 psi? From my experience, when you get a flat on road tubeless, it sprays until it drops to 40PSI and no matter what you do it won’t go above 40PSI without blowing the sealant plug out until it dries/cures. A day later, it will go back up to normal pressure but right after, it won’t hold.
Tell Uberti all his old riding buddies in Michigan love reading his Rocket to sprockets blog.
I did not take pressure measurements after. It started off at 90PSI, and if I had to guess I would say it went down to about 75 to 80 PSI. We need to do a test where we are riding and on purpose ride over a nail to see how it seals up with a rotating wheel. . .then take a pressure measurement after.
In the video, I would estimate that we only lost about 10-15PSI because of how quick it sealed. However, with a spinning tire it would likely take a little bit longer and a bit more PSI may be lost.
The good news is the tire from the video (that currently has over 100 punctures in it) is sitting in our office holding 90PSI for the past few days!