2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

Jamis’ Renegade adventure road bike goes beyond a single classification. It’s a fondo bike, endurance bike, gravel bike and commuter road bike all at once. It’s also looking like quite a high performance bike when called upon to hustle, too. Like when Tyler Wren took 3rd place in this year’s Crusher in the Tushars.

They introduced it this summer just before that event along with a healthy dose of info, but at Interbike we put it on the scale and got a few more details about production spec and builds. We’ve got plenty of pics and notes to share, and their new product video really puts it all into motion…

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

A full tapered headtube and angular shaping keep the steering precise, but head angles aren’t too steep. That, and having three different fork rakes depending on frame size to keep the trail the same, should help keep it stable despite the relatively short chainstays. The brake mounts are a cam system that threads into an alloy sleeve inserted from the side rather than bonded. This prevents heat from braking being able to weaking the bond and potentially cause the caliper mounts to come loose.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

Hidden rack and fender mounts are everywhere, allowing the bike to be fully equipped for commuting or light touring. Or not, with no visual penalty.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

A massive BB386EVO bottom bracket system gives them plenty of real estate for oversized downtube and chainstays, and the chainstays drop below the BB center to gain clearance for the chainrings without giving up their wide stance. It’s a clever solution to blend compatibility with efficiency.

In addition to the various forks, the BB drop is different for different size frames, too, with smaller frames getting more drop since the cranks will be shorter. They even use size specific tubing, and the rear end gets different lengths. Longer chainstays on taller bikes helps make it proportional. The goal was to give every size the exact same ride quality.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

Since a shorter rear end would typically mean a harsher ride, Jamis dropped the seatstays’ intersection with the seat tube and flattened them out to improve vertical compliance.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

Hidden rack mounts at the back of the dropouts and on the fork legs use thread-in eyelets to hold the racks or fenders.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

Tire clearance allows for up to 40c tires, or 35c with fenders. All cable and hose routing is internal, and frames are mechanical and electronic compatible out of the box.

Two models are available, both spec’d with Clement Xplore USH 700x35c tires since that brand has so much experience in the gravel/adventure bike segment. The Renegade Elite goes for $4,199 with Shimano Ultegra mechanical paired with BR-685 hydraulic brakes. Rotors are non-Shimano 6-bolt to work with the American Classic Argent Tubeless-Ready wheels. The cockpit is Ritchey Comp alloy up front with a carbon Flex Logic seatpost and Vector EVO saddle to further damp vibration and bumps.

The Renegade Expert gets Shimano 105 11-speed paired to TRP HyRD brake calipers, Alex ATD tubeless compatible wheels, Ritchey bar and stem, Jamis carbon seatpost and Selle Royal Seta S1 saddle for $2,399.

2015 Jamis Renegade adventsure gravel road bike

The size 58 with a little desert dust came in at 18.83lb (8.54kg). This very bike just showed up at our office for long term review, look for ride reports later this fall!

2015 Jamis Halo women's 650B full suspension mountain bike

Jamis’ Femme Collection offered many women’s road and city/street bikes in the past, but for 2015 they adapted several of their more popular mountain bikes to better fit women. The Halo XCT is based on their Dakar full suspension trail bike with 130mm travel front and rear. Changes include a shorter top tube, lower stand over height and a shorter saddle. It gets a Deore 2×10 drivetrain with 36/22 gearing.

2015 Jamis Halo women's 650B full suspension mountain bike

Other spec includes a Rockshox Sektor Silver and Monarch rear shock and KS e10 dropper post. Retail is $2,500.

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They also have a shorter travel Halo XC with 100mm front and 90mm rear for $1,300. Both use 27.5″ wheels.

2015 Jamis Eden womens 650B hardtail mountain bikes

The new Eden is one of two new 650B women’s hardtails. It’s the higher end model, and the new Helix (not shown) is lower end. They start at $400 and go up to $1,500, all with alloy frames.

2015 Jamis Eden womens 650B hardtail mountain bikes

The Eden gets higher end features like PFBB30, 12×142 rear thru axle, a triple butted frame and tapered headtube. The Helix will have standard features (QR, straight headtube, etc.) and much lower spec, though it does get a bent top tube for lower stand over height.

2015 Jamis Eden womens 650B hardtail mountain bikes

The Eden Race gets a Rockshox XC32 fork, WTB wheels, SRAM X5 and varies Ritchey cockpit parts for $1,499. Below it, the Eden Comp keeps the X5 group but downgrades to a Rockshox XC30 fork and generally lower level but still capable parts for $1,049. The The Helix runs just $439 to $549 with parts more inline with casual path and very light singletrack use.

2015 Jamis Eden womens 650B hardtail mountain bikes

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25 comments

  1. dug on

    “The goal was to give every size the exact same ride quality.”

    I keep seeing this kind of selling point lately. Does that mean up until now certain size frames lacked ride quality? This should be a given. The fact that I ride a 52cm means frames have not be optimized for my size all this time up until now? Why would companies be broadcasting this. I should be thanking them for building frames for people my size?

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  2. JM on

    Some companies use the same size tubes on all frame sizes to save money. This changes the ride quality between sizes. It’s kinda like Goldilocks and the Three Bears (Bike version, not sure if you guys read that one). Since “Company X” built all their frames with tubes that were best for 54cm bike, The 51 was too stiff, the 58 was too flexy but the 54 was just right…

    All the 3 bears enjoyed the same ride quality on their bikes though they were different sizes and every one rode happily ever after…

    This is from the Jamis website:

    What is SST size-specific tubing?
    “JAMIS’ SST size-specific tubing engineering protocol employs smaller diameter frame sections for smaller frames and larger ones for bigger frames, for more consistent ride quality across all frame sizes.

    We apply this technique in carbon, aluminum and steel, employing every trick in the book from hydroformed aluminum for directional stiffness to custom-spec tubing from the world’s best suppliers.”

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  3. Volsung on

    All sorts of nice features that I don’t care about because the seat stays look dumb. Line them suckers up with the top tube and I’ll consider it.

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  4. groghunter on

    @dug

    By default, pretty much everything manufactured for humans is originally designed for a 5’10”. 160 lb male, then sized up & down for other people. They will sometimes try to design it for a range(DVO suspenison products are supposed to be good for 140 – 230 lb riders, for instance,) & they may make some custom tweaks to the other sizes, but those increase cost. That’s the average human size, so you are catching a larger group with designing that way than if you targeted a different size, & designing & manufacturing separately for every size can get cost prohibitive rather quickly.

    Another example: unless you happen to be lucky, 54cm isn’t actually the perfect size for you. perhaps it’s 54.5. or 53.2. but they can’t mass produce such specific sizes, so you have to live with 2 cm increments.

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  5. mudrock on

    Re the Renegade’s SST: these are monocoque frames right? all the different sizes have different molds, and the plies are laid in the molds by hand. So there is no special effort required to make the tubes stiffer, or less stiff, or change the BB drop per size. The traditional limitations of metal tubing don’t apply carbon fabrication anyway.

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  6. mudrock on

    Not a fan of the short stays either. Slender seatstays are supposed to dampen vibration better right? so wouldn’t longer stays, joined at the toptube cluster, do the job better?

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  7. JBikes on

    @mudrock
    The same “limitations” may not apply, but the increases in manufacturing cost apply.

    Metal frames require different gauging, angles and lengths – different jig set-ups, the R&D to determine what to use when. This increases cost/complexity.

    Carbon frames require the R&D work to determine which lay-up and design works for a, say 52 vs 58 frame. Then there are the manufacturing costs associated with differing the frame build-ups in different sized molds (different carbon cuts, lays – increased production complexity, more room for error, high QAQC requirements). This increases cost.

    One could argue that its cost less with a carbon frame (I’d argue a carbon frame should be cheaper than a metal frame anyway), but the point is moot. It increases complexity –> that is a relative cost increase.

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  8. mudrock on

    J, yes the complexity is increased, but it is done on computer, designing the jig and optimizing the number of plies. To me, it’s not the same as manufacturing tubes in different thicknesses.

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  9. JBikes on

    Everything is done on the computer, then tested on prototypes, regardless if it’s metal or carbon. Al can be hydroformed – very similar to jig design and ply optimization. Steel/Ti may require use of standard tubes, but even then there are many available and many manufacturers customize thickness and butting with the tube OEM.

    Very few bike OEM make there own tubes. Once the design is set, they are bulk ordered. All are welded up the same. I guess I am not seeing the differences you are.

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  10. Fan Boy on

    WTF – “Adventure bike”

    seriously?

    A Salsa Fargo is an “adventure bike”. This is, at best, a gravel grinder/commuter.

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    • Jens on

      The Jamis Renegade looks like an awesome bike. Myself, I got the GT Grade Carbon 105 last summer and it’s been nothing but an absolute blast. Regarding tire size on the GT, even though specd up to 35 mm, I am riding it in the New Hampshire winter on 40mm Nokian studded tires. It also fits 42mm Continental CX tires. Per GT customer support the fender/rack mount on the rear is spec’d up to 45 lbs, so plenty enough for a light touring rack.

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  11. LateSleeper on

    Star —

    What I know about the GT Grade comes from reading the feature here last June, but here are my impressions. Both bikes apply unusual stay attachment to get more flex out of the seat tube. I see a trend there, whether Volsung likes it or not. I think Jamis has something nice with their removable rack and fender mounts, and I like that they preempted a potential reliability problem with their brake mount inserts. GT made some mis-steps: notably insufficient max tire width and horrible cable routing. The latter is clearly done as a cost-cutting measure. And there are some very aggressively-priced versions of the Grade, but those have aluminum frames. Move up to carbon, and the Jamis pricing looks competitive.

    If I had $4.2k sitting around, I would buy the Elite — that’s an excellent total weight for this kind of bike (58 cm is my size). I wonder what the weight adder is for the Expert build, which has a much more appealing price point.

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  12. muf on

    JBikes is quite accurate.

    Also, i dont seem much of a diff between a high quality commuter, gravel grinder or adventure bike 😉 That said this one looks nice regardless..

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  13. Jame$ on

    Listing BB height and not BB drop is pure amateur. But it’s cool to know they know how to optimize a bike by size, as if every person riding a 52 needs the same bike. Because the 5-9 guy who weighs 140 and races 105 needs the same frame qualities as the 5-9 guy who weighs 220, rides Dura Ace and talks about marginal gains and dropping grams all day.

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  14. Tomi on

    Why not just simply call these bikes “road bikes” ? The roads are not all the same, some are paved, some not, some are silky smooth, other bumpy or rough regardless of the surface in contact with the tire.

    We shouldn’t have to invent names for such traditionnal/conventionnal road bikes with space for larger tires. It should be the contrary and we should give specific names to road bikes that can’t fit tires larger than 700x25c.

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  15. Matt on

    Great to see somebody finally figuring out that chainstay lengths need to change to keep the handling the same across different sizes of bikes.

    Always drives me nuts when I see a bike that’s 48cm and 64cm and uses same exact chainstays. A lot of the bigger guys end up with seats on or behind the rear axle which is ridiculous.

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  16. Ajax on

    Too bad that gravel grinder/CX bike doesn’t have the new Shimano flat mount standard for disc brakes, but at least Jamis included thru axles front and rear. So, good bike. Let’s see the Shimano flat mount standard on the next version.

    Oh and please, Jamis. Get rid of all press fit BB “technology”.

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