At the end of August, Cane Creek announced they’d be taking over production of Craig Edwards’ eeBrake calipers. The design is among the lightest and most powerful rim brake on the market, but as a boutique operation, the number rolling out of Edwards’ shop was rather limited. Now, Cane Creek has announced that they’re up and running a full month early, with calipers shipping out now. Retail is $315 each (per wheel) and can be had in regular and direct mount versions with various color logo badges on either. They’re available direct through Cane Creek’s website or through their retail distribution network.
“brakes that roast rims”.
I’ve never roasted any wheels with rim brakes. I even still have my 1994 Trek Singletrack 930 with the original wheels (rim brakes). Used to be my only bike, ridden every day, went through college with it, thrashed it in any kind of weather, conditions, dirt, mud anything. I’d love to see all the roasted rims that these brakes seem to eat up. Not saying it can’t happen, but I’ve never had to replace a set of wheels because the brake track was worn out, no matter what kind of bike it was, or how it was used. And frankly, road bike culture is a throw-away/upgrade culture anyway. No “respectable” roadie keeps their wheels for any length of time now. Especially considering how everyone is brainwashed to buy the next big thing. Brake-track rims will long outlive the vast majority of their users.
Allan, I’ve bust an aluminium rim before (Velocity, massive bang as it burst), not sure where you live in the world but i’ve found that rims really do wear here in the UK, winter road grit is nasty. However, the expensive rims on my disk road bike are pretty much as good as the day i bought them a few years ago…they don’t need to be a throw away item.
I think your problem is velocity, rather than rim brakes. rims made by manufacturers with metallurgical expertise tend to last. I’ve really only ever heard of velocity rims wearing out with a spectacular bang. That said, disc brakes are great for maritime temperate climate rainy season riding (e.g. UK, PNW)
Disc brakes are superior in terms of modulation, consistency, foul weather braking, braking effort, and heat management. Alas, many people do own and will own for quite a while to come bikes that don’t have disc brakes as an option. That’s just a reality. Some of those people want the benefits of something like eeBrakes brakes. My bike, a bike I’ve had for a number of years won’t accept disc brakes. I have to use rim brakes. I’ve love to have eeBrakes. They’re a lot cheaper than buying a new frame and disc brakes.
“Mechanical advantage” is a very specific term from basic physics/ engineering. “Mechanical advantage” simply means “leverage”.
-Mechanical advantage in cable brakes works like a seesaw on the playground. If one end of the seesaw is three times longer than the other side, then the kid sitting on the longer side can weigh three times as much as the kid on the short side and still balance her/ him.
-Mechanical advantage in hydraulic brakes comes from a difference in size of the master cylinder (the one in the brake lever) and the slave cylinder (the one at the brake). If you have a small master cylinder, say 10mm in diameter, and a big slave cylinder, say 30mm in diameter, your squeeze of say 10lbs at the lever would turn into 30lbs of squeeze at the brake pads.
-As you can say, it’s no trouble to build two braking systems, one cable-operated, the other hydraulic, which both have the same mechanical advantage (leverage) as each other. Reality is messy, though. Cables stretch slightly when pulled, there is some friction between the cable and its housing (especially if dirt has entered the housing or if the slick coating of the cable is degraded), and cable housing can bulge and squirm under heavy braking loads. All of this means less force reaches the brake pads. Cables also are totally unaffected by cold or heat, unlike hydro fluid. Cable-operated brakes also don’t self adjust for wear, unlike hydraulic ones. This can be an issue if you are riding long downhill runs and/ or in the rain: in just one ride, you will need to re-adjust your brakes for pad wear.
These reasons, and not “mechanical advantage”, are the real reasons hydraulic systems are superior in most conditions for most riders.
Ludicrous. You’re comparing a car or even a motorcycle (and that weight) to a freaking road bike? I don’t understand this slobbering over disc brakes. Seriously, how many people are going to buy into every bit of hype over the latest gotta-have trendy thing? Disc brakes now, soon it will be 30+mm wide rims (you heard it here first kids) for the road. After the manufacturers dupe everyone into buying another brand new bike with disc brakes, they’ll be sure to spec their fork and frame clearances just below the newest uber fat road bike wheels, which will soon be force fed to us as the latest and greatest BS. It’s gotten to be over the top the past few years with the latest fads which require a new bike purchase to be in the cool kids crowd.
Go ahead, buy your hydro disc road bike, all it tells me is your handling and braking skills are subpar and noobish.
I went through a disc brake phase, but now got rid of most of my disc bikes except the do-it-all. Need the stopping power with a child carrier behind me. However, my main bike is now back to rim brake. Hard to argue with the weight saving with ZERO hills around me.
These brakes are such a status symbol though. Nothing wrong with that, it just catches my eyes from a mile away everytime there are eeBrakes near me.
I’ve been using a pair of these on my road bike for over three years. Total loaded weight on my bike is around 200 lbs, and I constantly ride up/down grades over 15%. I’ve never needed anything more to stop me. Discs are great, but also, whatever dude. Two weeks ago, I was about to get t-boned by a car at the bottom of a descent going over 40 mph. I had no problem stopping at all.
’bout half the weight, more power, better modulation, and more even pad contact because the two arms move in the same arc. The core of th3e brake is larger, lighter and stiffer, the arms the same. One casual benefit is that the cable enters just about centered over the caliper which reduces somewhat the effect of stiff housing on the adjustment.
For road bikes, the advantages of discs only really apply in crap weather and will necessarily be a proportionally heavier option for the foreseeable future. The weight difference was not so significant on MTB and conditions are typically worse. I have to change brake pads often enough on a commuter that i’m seriously considering discs, but for a MTB where five rides meant new pads, it’s a no-brainer.
And considering the number of non-disc road bikes already out there is in the millions, having a legitimate upgrade without frame or fork modifications just makes sense, especially considering how much longer a road bike can be kept running even when used for its intended purpose regularly.
Side note: why is there a “discs/tubeless or gtfo” contingent of roadies on BR at all? Like, how is it a thing? Cool your jets