Hunt laces lightweight threaded, bladed 36 UD Carbon Spoke road wheels

Correct, but stiffer spokes do.

so can you install/remove said tires with your bare hands, hmm i doubt it, and if you could i doubt you would be here to tell the story. bicycle tires are the only ones on the etrto list that allow for hand fitting

@Dustytires – You probably mean ETRTO instead of ERD 😉
Like Jonas mentions about the car tires, correct hookless-compatible tires have reinforced beads (Kevlar mostly). Problems with hookless occur when you use simple/normal tires. They stretch at the bead section. So, it is a choice of the wheel/rim maker to make a rim compatible for a selection of tires or all.
Personally, from an engineering point of view, to make something hold air, I would prefer a U-shape (rim & tire bead that match) over an L-shape (hookless) where it might be possible that the bead moves a bit along the non-hook.

Hi Morten, Thank you for your 2nd comment on this topic on two different websites. As devoted bike riders ourselves, here at HUNT we always appreciate the opportunity to learn more and make better wheels all the time. We all want to see independent testing that pushes this forwards. To provide some other sides of the balance regards the Tour Magazine results is also important to make the best of the independent testing process. My brother Peter is somewhat of a physics geek (having Graduated Science at Cambridge with a speciality in materials) and oversees, along with Luisa (Masters Degree in Aerospace Engineering, HUNT Engineering Manager), all our internal testing procedures. Pete would have liked to learn a lot more about the Tour test protocols, but from the limited information they share we identified there did not appear to be an adaptation in their testing to take into account differing levels of friction at the brake surface and the resulting differing heat transfer to each rim. So, a low friction brake pad = a much higher likelihood of passing their test. Our email to Tour magazine enquiring about these details remains unanswered (it was definitely friendly and polite, our Mother brought us up proper 😉 .) We of course have tested our braking surface extensively and the wheels tested by Tour have been in use around the world by many thousands of riders, including our sponsored Canyon DHB Continental team who have been racing on the wheels for three years. We have never witnessed the kind of failure that Tour managed to generate in their lab test.

Some replies from a rider and a journalists to your previous comment:

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@ThatBrainiac “Tour Magazine… I love those guys for their dedication to objective testing, and I wish there was more of it in the industry…but sometimes their results don’t seem to square with real world reports. For example, they are the only source I have ever seen of a melted Shimano Ice-Tech disc rotor, which caused them to rate Shimano disc brakes quite low due to the complete failure in their test. Undoubtedly, a braking system failure is serious business, and we’d all do well to steer clear of putting ourselves at risk of one, but those rotors seem to hold up fine in the real world under riders of all weights, on even the most serious of alpine descents (both on and off road). It is also frustrating how often German companies soundly win their tests, when, in the real world, ride reports of the same products are considerably more average. Maybe German companies like Magura, Schwalbe, and Conti are just using similar tests to what Tour uses, so their products have been designed to excel in those conditions, but the results could also be an indication of nationalistic bias, which really sucks, as the whole promise of objective testing is to avoid biases (of all sorts).”

Dave Rome Mod (Technical Writer for Cycling Tips) ThatBrainiac • 3 months ago • edited
“I’ll take it a step further than that. I know on good authority that a number of bike brands were previously (5-10 years ago) designing bikes specifically to excel in Tour’s former stiffness-to-weight frame tests. The outcome was terribly stiff riding bikes that would chatter you to pieces and quickly break traction – but a winning score in Tour mag would produce sales within the world’s largest cycling market.”

We definitely see the need for more independent testing and want to congratulate Tour for trying to push these things forwards and all bike components will benefit from this. We are all bike geeks here at HUNT, so we really do want to keep pushing bike parts forwards and so we would love to hear from anyone who can help or wants to chat bike.

Kindest Regards and enjoy your riding,

Tom Marchment – HUNT Wheels.