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Modefixxer for those who want (or need) a Canyon Shapeshifter alternative

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BikeYoke recently sent us info about a tuning part they’ve developed for Canyon’s shape shifting Strive enduro bike. We saw the Strive when it was introduced with its Shapeshifter tech about a year and a half ago, but we haven’t had proper test of the bike. Its remotely activated geometry adjustment promises XC bike climbing and Enduro bike descending. At first glance (to someone who doesn’t ride this bike) the Modefixxer appears to take away some shape shifting functionality for a minimal weight savings. Looking into it a bit further, though, it seems that some riders have had issue with the durability, or rather longevity, of the Shapeshifter system and were looking for a simple alternative.

That’s where BikeYoke Modefixxer comes back into play. After seeing their early work on the Specialized Enduro shock yoke, a Strive owner from Italy worked with the German company to come up with a solution that pares down weight and simplifies things by eliminating the adjustable setup, but still delivering the same ride. If you’ve got a Strive and ride it hard, this could be worth looking into…

The All New Canyon Strive CF Shape Shifts Into Enduro Reality

Poke around the forums or ask riders (we’ve done both) and it seems enough Strive owners have one-time or repeated problems with that little Shapeshifter. While likely valid warranty issues, the Modefixxer replaces the shifting parts with tooled adjustments for a potentially more solid fix.

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It’s a simple device that drops about 150g off the total bike setup, by replacing the Shapeshifter with a small fixed link for a more simple overall setup. Two versions are available; one that fixes the bike in its descending geometry, and a second that offers the DH setup and a trail mode that’s somewhere in between the Shapeshifter’s own two extremes. While the original Shapeshifter extends about 15mm from DH to XC modes and changes bottom bracket height by ~20mm and the head angle by 1.5°, the Modefixxer Plus at  +7.5mm in its TR mode offering a change in the middle of those two original positions.

Installing it means losing the unique shape shifting function of the Strive, but BikeYoke says that they are simply responding to customer demand. As company head Stefan Sack puts it they are a company that likes to be able to work with consumers directly to solve problems that might not make sense for bigger companies. They are both open to customer input and want their customers to feel like a part of their team by coming up with solutions together.

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Both versions use all of the original mounting hardware to install the link directly in place of the Shapeshifter can. The standard 7075 fixed Modefixxer weighs just 60g and can be bought for 70€, while the adjustable Modefixxer Pro adds about 40g and climbs to 90€, both prices including delivery worldwide and 19% VAT for European customers. Pricing outside of the EU will be lower factoring out that tax.

Presale of the Modefixxers has already gone live on BikeYoke’s website. And they are currently in production with deliveries anticipated around the end of April 2016.

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chase
chase
6 years ago

Cool idea , but Canyon is in deep doo doo if this is a viable product idea.
The concerns over the SS reliability are what is likely keeping Canyon’s out the US market.

JeroenK
JeroenK
6 years ago

“Is what is likely keeping Canyon …” Don’t you just love it how the internet enables anybody to suggest anything without having to back it up? And how it seems to magnify a few problems to the point it seems like an entire product is flawed? (Especially when there’s another product to solve that)

How would Canyon be in deep doo doo? If someone would like a Canyon Strive, because of its great value and performance, but remarks like yours make them doubt reliability, this might convince them to go ahead and order one.

Sammy
Sammy
6 years ago

Chances are that this will void the warranty on the strive. Manufactures never like people using third party solutions to proprietary parts on bikes.

Ray
Ray
6 years ago

Bionicon anyone?

ted sanchez
ted sanchez
6 years ago

Maybe they could make something similar for Kona Magic Links?

chase
chase
6 years ago

JeroenK-Do a little research on the issue and it will certainly validate all I stated. This product idea is a reaction to the frustration of many many owners. It is not a product that enhances the bike but fixes a fatal flaw.
It is a fact they are having a very serious issue with this particular feature of what could be THE BIKE to have in that category. I wanted to buy one and went through as much BS as I could to get one. They are holding back from the US market until they get their crap together.

stiingya
6 years ago

@Chase, Canyon has been “rumored” to be coming to the US for like 6 years… The shape shifter only came out last year. Obviously they would have had to pay for FSR licensing fee’s up until “last year”. But otherwise what “is” and what “isn’t” holding up Canyon from entering the US market all this time sure the heck isn’t something YOU have shown to have any first hand knowledge about… 🙂

The fact that the SS has teething issues and that the demand for a warranty part outpaced the ability of Canyon to fill the warranty doesn’t validate your “internet assumption” on the timing of Canyon into the US market. Canyon had all kinds of warranty, customer fulfillment, and customer service issues last year. It was because of “growing pains” as their business is booming, there was just an article/public apology about it.

And even “IF” that was the ONE thing holding them up from entering the US Market. Then DUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH. They just wouldn’t sell that model yet. Sure it would be a bummer and “some” people, (not pointing fingers), would sprout WILD internet rumors for the reason… But companies enter new markets with limited availability ALL THE TIME. (Whyte, not offering the baddest assed bike they make. Yet.) Heck, you just about have to win the lottery to get a chance at buying the high end XL aluminum YT Capra because of limited availability… (still sold out, I checked. For no reason cause their XL is still about the size of most larges, but just for the sake of this comment I checked…)

Anyway, as far as this product is concerned, the Modefixxer. Totally Legit. BUT ALSO, I did my research and anyone can watch a YouTube Video that will show you how to set up your SS to stay in either trail or DH modes FOR FREE. Also, besides that one dude in Italy, seems like the people who make this component sure were arguing hard to convince somebody else they needed to buy one on the forums…?

Still, this is a totally legit component/idea. And I’d bet a fair amount of people out there would consider buying it. Bolt and leave it in trail mode most of the time. Adjust it for park/shuttle days. And I do remember one of the first Strive reviews where they thought they’d just leave it in DH mode if they owned it… (course they also admitted that they had limited time to get used to it?). So I’m sure this will sell. But not because the Shape Shifter is a “fatal flaw”… but because this is “also” a good idea. And there is ALWAYS a market for good ideas!

JeroenK
JeroenK
6 years ago

So the warehouse software issues Canyon’s president publicly apologized for are nothing but a scam to hide the real problem, which is the Shapeshifter, right? 😉

I can research all the internet anekdotes I want, but that says nothing. Without numbers sent in for warranty vs. numbers sold, or a admission from the company, all of this is speculation. Like a dropper post, cable tension and air pressure have to be set correctly. Also, the manual advises to store the bike in the climb position. If anything, they offer a product that is not completely idiot proof.

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  JeroenK

We did a lot of research, talked to a lot of Strive owners, and we do NOT want to estimate or rate the magnitude of a possible Shapeshifter issue, and we also do not want to adress it. This is not our style!
However, if you read in the links in one of the former posts (and please do it) – specifically in the German forums, as well, as only on the first page of the pinkbike forum (one customer had his 6th replacement already, and we know of several customers, that have also had more than 3 replacements) you can draw your own assumptions.
However, for us, the feedback from customers was determining enough to go for this product and offer it.
This product idea did not come from us. We were contacted by Strive customers, to make it. So it seemed, like there is a demand. Our research just finally convinced us, that we should really go for it and make a produc, that can help out, if customers want…

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  JeroenK

You are completely right, that you can not say anything without knowing numbers of warranty replacement vs. numbers of sold units. This is why we do not address this, and we do not dare to offend anyone´s reputation.

However, having dozens of customers, that have had to replace their SS unit several times (this is publicly available in several forum threads), and customers already reporting, that their newly received and improved 2016 SS spring, also starts showing issues already, let us THINK (we are not saying that this is a fact) that we should go for this product.
To me (and this is my personal view) it just seems not unlikely, that there could be some issues with this gas spring. To me I was aksing myself the question: How big is the chance, that only those dozens (known) customers complaining have had to replace his gas unit already 3 and more (up to 6) times, whereas the majority does not have to? To me this chance is pretty low. Maybe I am wrong, maybe.
We are not forcing anyone to buy it. We could not even sell it, if there was no Strive customer.
So please go ahead and buy more Canyon Strives. And if you WANT, then you can also buy a Modefixxer. You don´t have to…
I do not want to go deeper into that. Everyone can draw his own assumptions, and get a better overview about tthis topic, if he/she really wants to.
We did our research, and that´s about it.

JeroenK
JeroenK
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

Thanks for the elaborate replies. Please note I am not taking anything away from your product! I simply do not like unfounded suggestions :). I also think there is a market for the Modefixxer, regardless of the reliability of the Shapeshifter. I have a Strive and mine works fine, but I would like the simplicity (less cables, less cluttered bars) and lower weight of your yoke for times I do not have to climb much. For the transition stages of enduro races, I really like the SS, but for bikepark holidays, it’s useless. I’d imagine there are Strive customers that really do not use theirs and rather save the weight, the extra stuff on the bike and the slim chance of faillure. (FYI, faillure of the SS leaves the bike in DH mode)

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  JeroenK

Don´t worry, I don´t feel, like you are taking anything away. No probs.
But I think you should not say, that we (neither the author of the article, or another poster, or me) are spreading any unfounded rumors. That´s just not right.
We do not spread rumors, we are just quoting feedback of many, many customers.

FYI: Failure of the SS doesn not neccessarily leave the Bike in DH mode. There are several cases, where the SS keeps shifting between the modes, because the valve gets stuck (nope, it´s not because of the cable tension ;-))
You can read about that in the forums by cliking on the previously posted links.
So there are different failure modes of the SS. .

I think the SS (or the concept of the Strive) is a great idea, since I am designing the Bionicon System and I know, what benefits an adjustable geometry can provide. Surely, the Bionicon system is not for everyone, but in plenty of cases it makes sense for the rider.
But looking at the technical details and design of the gas spring of the SS: I would not really like to have to work on this unit right now…

Stefan
6 years ago

Nobody has an idea, about why Canyon has not entered certain markets so far, and I think there can be plenty of reasons for that.
However, if anyone is interested about the Shapeshifter and about how “someone” is magnifying problem, you might read here:

http://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=168001&pagenum=1
or here
http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/shapeshifter-technikthread.782099/page-15#post-13643269
or here
http://www.mtb-forum.it/community/forum/showthread.php?t=329585

The Modefixxer is surely a product that takes away the unique feature of the Strive, but people asked for this and BikeYoke just helped out. Do you think this company will get rich from offering this product?

Personally, I would never replace a perfectly working shapeshifter unit, but if I doesnt´t work, then I´d consider…

Chris.s
Chris.s
6 years ago

SS was never the reason why Canyon have been holding US on hold, The company is growing insanely fast and to be able keep up with the demands and dont go into the trap of being to greedy they choose to keep some markets on hold until they have stabilized at the markets they are currently in. US will come soon.
I have a Strive and it is brilliant in both XC and DH mode, Customers have had some problems with the SS -15 model. Jan -16 a new SS model was made and is now shipped out to the customers that had problems with their old units. The -16 model seems so far to be flawless.
Source? Im a mechanic for the company.

This Modefixxer could be of interest for people that shuttle seeing that it both saves some weight and also free the bars from a extra trigger. But honestly with the new SS i wouldn’t trade away the versatility of my bike for that small weight saving, fun to see innovation though.

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris.s

You mean sources for failures on the 2016 model?
http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/shapeshifter-technikthread.782099/page-12
Two cases reported on February 18.
By the way: If you are a mechanic for the company, maybe you can let some of your staff know, that there are a lot of customers in the forums that are waiting for feedback in your official Canyon sub-forum.
Please don´t take that the wrong way! I just wanted to let you know! Maybe you can have someone reply to them.

Chris.s
Chris.s
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

As far as i know 18feb the new -16 shapeshifters hadn’t been delivered outside of Canyon.
The new units was being distributed to all markets in beginning of march.
Noted, and forwarded.

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris.s

So I have a SS E124-16 model on hand and no the previous E124-15. And I already had it mid of January.
So I don´t know, when you guys strated shipping it, but it must have been way before January, since I would not think I was one of the first ones to receive it.

Chris.s
Chris.s
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

Does the number read; E12416M15K”xxxx”, x is not important here

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

Need to check the exact number. It is at home and I am at work right now.

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

Need to check the exact number.
Definitely it is E124-16xxxxx, about the rest I will have to check later.

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

So any comment on this?

Stefan
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris.s

So the number is: E12415M15Lxxx

Chris.s
Chris.s
6 years ago
Reply to  Stefan

Sorry for the late answer, So your Shapeshifter “E12415M15Lxxx” E12415M : First version of the gasspring, 15L : 2015 “15”, November “L”. So it is a late production of the first model.

chase
chase
6 years ago

So basically this whole thread is Strive owners attacking the truth to protect their investment in this bike. Which in theory is an awesome bike but the R&D was inadequate for a product launch.
Embarrassing for Canyon no matter how you spin it.

chase
chase
6 years ago

Chris S.- So any idea of when they will come to the US? Despite my posts.
As I stated , I want one.

Iain
Iain
6 years ago

At the price you pay for a Strive compared to any bike w similar spec it’s hardly protecting an investment-pocket money against a Santa Cruz/yeti/etc w same level of kit.
My shapeshifter has malfunctioned (still works but has lost oil) so I’m asking for a replacement. A device which operates under such huge pressure is bound to have such issues. If you want to buy innovation it’s a price you have to pay IMO.
Like other warranty issues with Canyon I expect it’ll be sorted efficiently by them.
The ride is awesome – best bike I’ve ever had and as good as any I’ve ridden, so I may be biased!
Hartley Hare

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