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So we knew this was coming, though technically until now it has all been speculation. Niner just confirmed that x01 is coming, and they will have spec on the RIP 9, AIR 9, JET 9, and SIR 9 soon. As you probably can imagine, a less expensive version of one of the most influential mountain bike groups to date is going to be very popular. Niner suggests getting your orders in now for maybe a fall release?

No pictures yet, but links to Niner’s specs after the break.

RIP 9: http://www.ninerbikes.com/rip9
Jet 9 Carbon: http://www.ninerbikes.com/jet9carbon
Air 9 RDO: http://www.ninerbikes.com/air9rdo
SIR 9: http://www.ninerbikes.com/sir9
See your Niner dealer for details and to order. http://www.ninerbikes.com/dealers
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Jeremiah White
Jeremiah White
9 years ago

Cue the peanut gallery bitching about Sram’s brakes.

Bike shop employee
Bike shop employee
9 years ago

Sram’s brakes suck!

Mindless
Mindless
9 years ago

SRAM brakes suck.

Mike
Mike
9 years ago

What’re you guys saying? Sorry, I couldn’t hear you over SRAM’s squealing brakes.

Andy
Andy
9 years ago

For balance the Avids I had were powerful.

Pity they howled like wild dogs and the back one wouldn’t stay bled for more than a week at a time.

bc
bc
9 years ago

they are horribly engineered… sram sucks…

dirty sanchez
dirty sanchez
9 years ago

sram brakes are awful, but the xo1 drivetrain sounds pretty sweet! i have xx1 now and it works great.

Max
Max
9 years ago

@BC thats no horrible engineering… It’s a perfect hit on the target. Management want products which have to be replaced every year.

Products which can be used years without or cheap spare parts… Shimano does it wrong and magura did it too.

Bikeman
Bikeman
9 years ago

That is what is great about the Project One Program Trek just rebooted with Mtn. bikes. You can get a Sram Drivetrain with Shimano Brakes!!!

Mindless
Mindless
9 years ago

I have an even better program. Get a frame and buy parts you like online to ride what you want and save thousands.

Sim
Sim
9 years ago

Is that an updated Jet9 Al silhouette I see?

Robo
Robo
9 years ago

And then when the cheap stuff you bought online breaks, take it to your local bike shop to have them fix it and complain about the labor cost. Yay!

Luke Lazer
9 years ago

I rented a bike for Tamaracho flow, came equipped With Sram hydro brakes. They squealed so much that I stopped a few times and checked to see if they had installed the pads backwards or the pad spreaders were on the inside or something. At least reading this I can see that is the way they “Work”

Gideon
Gideon
9 years ago

Blame the brake fluid they use. I think if Sram switches to mineral oil instead of using DOT 4 and 5.1 fluids, the Avids may actually have a chance of being a good set of brakes.

Danny
Danny
9 years ago

Might be a little early to call XX1 “one of the most influential mountain bike groups ever.”

chsad
chsad
9 years ago

Avid burned me twice with their hydros. Never again. Though I admit their BB7 is a great product. Wait for all the roadies to start yelping about their road hydros….

SJordan
SJordan
9 years ago

How ever cool it is it canot match the awesomeness of their brakes.

CXisFun
CXisFun
9 years ago

SRAM brakes suck. Bad. As in the worst.

Yep
Yep
9 years ago

From what I hear (squealing) SRAM brakes suck.

john
john
9 years ago

nit-picking: power/modulation of brakes is always up for debate, but if a brake squeals, it’s not a function of who made the brake, it’s making sure that the pads are bedded properly, and the rotors/calipers are aligned…

Ck
Ck
9 years ago

Meh, XO is still expensive as hell. Needs to be X9 before the price oriented buyers come out to play with 1×11.

Luiggi
9 years ago

I might get burned for what I’m about to write, but I’ve found the FCS barrel to be the culprit of the sudden failures of the Elixir line. I’ve owned several Avid models (Juicy 3s, 7s, Elixirs 5s and CRs) and a couple of Shimano ones (575 and Deore). I have nothing but good things to say about the Juicys and the Elixir 5s. However, the CRs drove me nuts. Seemed like they couldn’t stay solid for more than a week after each bled… Crossing opinios with my ride mates, everyone who had a set of FCS-equipped Elixirs suffered from the same woes.

Now when it comes to long descents, Avids clearly overpower Shimanos in my humble opinion. I almost fell down a cliff once when I grabbed the Deores with all my strength and found the levers would just hit the grips and the bike kept accelerating… I’d choose DOT brake fuild over mineral oil any day of the week.

greg
greg
9 years ago

@john
even avid admits that their squealing is a harmonics issue with their pad mated to their rotor on certain frames and forks (read: most). and no amount of bedding in and alignment is going to fix the fact that their reservoir bladder material and hose material simply allowed too much atmospheric moisture to get pulled through, increasing fluid volume, then requiring some fluid to be bled out before pads could be reset. their reservoirs imo have too little volume. and what about having so much assembly grease inside the master cylinder that it clogs its own ports? or bleeding out a new brake (because the factory bleed was sh1t) only to find black seal pieces floating in there?
truth is their products tend to fall short. some parts have the beginnings of a good idea, maybe 3/4 of the way there, but fail in other ways. they simply dont want it bad enough. they dont want to be “the best”.

EpicThroatBeard
EpicThroatBeard
9 years ago

John is right, as in correct, and the rest of you brake “squealers” are also right, as in correct. Historically the SRAM brake product has had a tough run of it when it comes to noisy. Magura are noisy also. The Trail series seems to have kicked to habit though.

CE
CE
9 years ago

@John. Does harmonic squealing remain an issue on Sram’s brakes without the GPS orbitals? Never a fan of post mount brakes (threaded magnesium?) it seems that the extra quarter inch of orbitals would only exacerbate vibration and flex.

Seraph
Seraph
9 years ago

Why are you all bitching about SRAM brakes? X01 is a drivetrain system. Run whatever brakes you want. No one is forcing you. I run Formula brakes with my SRAM drivetrain.

sweetbaboo
sweetbaboo
9 years ago

I like my XO Trails. And I think offering 1×11 at a lower price point is awesome for those interested. It’s really great to have more than one MTB drivetrain to choose from.

Regardless, how did a drivetrain topic get railroaded by people with brake issues? Oh, I know. As is common among forums everywhere and for everything, people do the easy thing and complain rather than having constructive dialogue. Thanks for meeting expectations forum people.

mountguitars
mountguitars
9 years ago

the moment i clicked on the link, i was gonna say sram brakes sucks. funny thing is that turns out a lot of people think the same way. the juicy brakes were great but the elixirs are just horrible.

mtb4me
mtb4me
9 years ago

SRAM brakes don’t suck….in the box.

dale
dale
9 years ago

I use magura brakes with sram. But I still hate Sram product launches (Red22).

g
g
9 years ago

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Olijay
Olijay
9 years ago

You guys know that the first comment was ironic right? Well, intended to be ironic anyway – hilarious that this ACTUALLY devolved into a SRAM/Avid brake argument.

Olijay
Olijay
9 years ago

Also, I’m excited to see X91/XX9 or whatever they’ll call it – I suppose that is a MY2015 component if they release it.

Antipodean_G
9 years ago

“one of the most influential mountain bike groups ever.”

That’s a big call. A very big call.

So, jam another cog in there (and charge a bomb for it) and tell every one running 1×11 is the future is influential… even though people have been running 1x set ups (1×9, 1×10) for ages?

Never knew it was THAT easy.

MaLóL
MaLóL
9 years ago

3×9 rocks. 44 ring for speed, and 22 for steep climbs. 32 for 90% of the time.

Long life to shimano.

ScottR
ScottR
9 years ago

XO1 is about the drive train and not the brakes so get over it. XTR brakes are awesone and match my XO silver gripshift bette than anything from avid anyway so now I can get a great setup at a better price. Just mix and match and get the best of both worlds….

Mindless
Mindless
9 years ago

@Robo: Have not been to LBS in years, I would not let those hacks work on my bikes.

Stuff online is the exact same stuff you would see on your bike, just twice cheaper.

Anthony
Anthony
9 years ago

Looking forward to Shimano releasing a similar system. I have too many friends on SRAM XX and XO and they are all constantly having problems and not only with their brakes.

So, when are Shimano going to come out and play?

don
don
9 years ago

XX1 gets most influential IMO, wicked pricey but awesome. Ditch the chain guards, front shifter, deraileur… awesome. Absolutely love mine.

For mortals though the 32 front ring they ship with is silly, send with a 28 and you are covered. 28×10 offers plenty of speed. Front derailleurs are what suck.

In a few years only shimano brake lovers will run 2×10. 🙂

don

Matt
Matt
9 years ago

My Elixir CR’s have worked great for 3 seasons. Boom.

Erik
Erik
9 years ago

@bikeman, but you still have a Trek… Now your brakes won’t fail but your frame will.

Phil
Phil
9 years ago

Gee! All those people thinking there is some value in liquid/internet democracy, should have a close look at BR comment box! The first four comments were actually good fun/irony … but then it took off all to quickly. It´s not about the brakes!!?

BTW: I read somewhere else the new X01 cassette will feature X-Dome technology as well, can anyone confirm? I fear, if so, the money saving won´t be as much as everybody is hoping for…

Lawman
Lawman
9 years ago

If you need a 28t as standard you probably need to lose something else and it sure as hell ain’t on the bike! The 32t gives a huge range and I’d run out a 28t in seconds, I’m not exactly a sponsored enduro rider either. Glad to see this is filtering down though, but I hope shimano are going to respond a) because I prefer shimano to SRAM and b) because they’re gonna lose a huge market share if they don’t and this appeals to such a huge market I’m not sure they can afford to look past it. They need something to compete and fast!!

bin judgin
bin judgin
9 years ago

bummer for you guys. my 2012 xx brakes are working great, and are light as shit.

new shimanos have their share of problems but the internet LOVES shimano.

ROCKSHOX FO EVA

vhom
vhom
9 years ago

XX1 is nice and all, but I refuse to pay 400 bucks for a cassette and 80 for the chain. Hopefully the bean counters can make it a 200 dollar cassette and 40-50 dollar chain.I wouldn’t mind a little bit of weight to save a few hundred dollars.

VanMan
VanMan
9 years ago

Have one bike with XT hydros and another with Juicy 5’s. The Shimano’s are nicer in almost every way (lever feel, power, modulation and adjustment) but they don’t work well below -10 C and not at all below -20 C. They also cost more than double what the Juicy’s went for.

The Juicy’s stop my bike, even at 7:00 AM on a busy street in -20 C weather. They have required very little maintenance in 5 years of every day winter commuting except for pad changes and being bled occasionally (once a season). The DOT 4 brake fluid is a pain to use, but it is dirt cheap and you can get it anywhere. As an added bonus it doesn’t freeze.

Why all the hate for Avid brakes? They have kept me from sliding under many a bus and have got me through a couple races too. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another set based on that alone.

vhom
vhom
9 years ago

Maybe because the Juicy’s were developed by Formula? The Elixirs are 100 percent SRAM/Avid and almost 100 percent crap. The new Avids may actually be money, but I been fool too many times in the last few years that I wouldn’t touch it with a five foot stick.

satisFACTORYrider
satisFACTORYrider
9 years ago

avid brakes and fox ctd go together like tuna fish and cigarettes or campin and head lice.

kyle
kyle
9 years ago

this totally made my morning. you guys whine WAY too much haha.

satisFACTORYrider
satisFACTORYrider
9 years ago

it’s more of a honk than a whine. would agree that it was entertaining how it escalated.

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