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Shimano Patents Point to All-New XTR Di2, XT Di2, Deore Di2 & maybe even GRX Di2?

next-gen Shimnao XTR Di2 Patent Patrol
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We’ve been deep in Di2 rumors ever since Shimano bypassed XTR and released an ebike-only XT Di2 groupset in 2022. And the rumor mill only got louder when a new 2x-only GRX Di2 launched last spring… not the 1x that most gravelers now prefer. So since then, I’ve been on the lookout for more Di2 patent stories to uncover more insight into Shimano’s development cycle.

But now our latest Patent Patrol finds line up with some of those rumors, and all hint of a huge update to Shimano Di2 mountain bike drivetrains coming soon….

Shimano XTR Di2 has been a long time coming!

Shimano XTR Di2 is coming soon, but maybe also XT Di2, Deore Di2, and even GRX Di2?
(Patent drawings via Shimano/Illustrations by Cory Benson)

It’s been almost 7 years since Shimano updated XTR with mechanical M9100. That top-tier mountain bike groupset is no slouch (still one of our favorites), and the mechanical 1x 12-speed drivetrain is still being raced to World Cup & Olympic wins many years later.

But it’s not electronic.

In the meantime, wireless SRAM AXS groups have dominated the electronic-shifting market off-road. AXS continues to offer easy-to-use drivetrains at a wide range of price points, all with simple cross-platform integration. SRAM has delivered countless wireless drivetrains that are easy for anyone to set up, effortless to shift, and can be readily mix-and-matched between road, gravel & mountain bikes.

They even used direct-mount wireless mountain bike and gravel bike drivetrains to push bikemakers to adopt their new UDH standard. All the way to the point that SRAM may soon come back to a more affordable, simpler starting point with a couple of all-new mechanical Transmissions.

But wait, Di2 has been around for something like two decades

Patent Patrol uncovers fully-wireless next-gen 2x 13-speed Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 drivetrain with removable batteries and more wild tech

We’ve seen wired electronic Di2 since 2009, and semi-wireless on the road since 2021.

I already wrote about a fully wireless Shimano MTB Di2 patent last spring. It even hinted at the possibility of jumping from the current XTR 12-speed, straight to 13-speeds. But a year later, its interesting discussions on semi-interchangeable batteries, more gears, and even wireless braking have yet to materialize.

Now, with another mountain biking season in sight, there’s been a flurry of new interest. I’ve been digging through patents as I look to find evidence for my long list of 2025 predictions. And I have to act fast, as new product announcements are ramping up.

What’s new in 2025 for Shimano XTR Di2?

next-gen Shimnao XTR Di2 Patent Patrol, rear derailleur

These latest patent diagrams appear much more developed than the schematic drawings that we reported on last year. And they back up some of the rumors we’ve heard.

The same core concept is there, though.

  1. These new Shimano Di2 off-road derailleurs pack their control motors & step-down gears (blue) deeper into the B-knuckle than their road Di2 derailleurs – presumably for better impact resistance.
  2. They mount the battery (red) into an oversized outer parallelogram link.
  3. They still include a clutch (green) in the P-knuckle.
  4. And even though we’ve seen separate Shimano derailleur patents with UDH-compatible direct frame mounts (and B-tension screws), these latest illustrations all still mount to a conventional derailleur hanger.
next-gen Shimnao XTR Di2 Patent Patrol, derailleur inside

What about XT Di2, Deore Di2 & GRX Di2, though?

next-gen Shimnao XTR Di2 Patent Patrol, derailleur rear

Another key bit of information comes from a bike manufacturer’s prematurely leaked 2025 spec sheet.

There, one full-suspension XC mountain bike that launched in late 2023 last year, now gets 4 new Shimano build specs in the coming season.

  • The top-tier Team build lists an as-yet-unreleased XTR M9200 groupset, specifically calling out a M9250 Di2 12-speed shifter & Shadow Plus derailleur.
  • Both a second-tier Team and a third-tier RC build each get another new product family number – an XT M8200 groupset – again specifying its own M8250XT Di2 12-speed shifter & derailleur.
  • Then, even the fourth-tier RC build features Di2 with a new Deore M6200 groupset, again noting a M6250 Di2 12-speed shifter & derailleur for the new Deore line. Below that, further models feature existing mechanical groupsets.

As for GRX Di2 1x… I’ll leave that entirely to my own speculation. Rumor had it that Shimano was waiting for the 1x electronic mountain bike derailleurs to launch before copying the same look and style for GRX Di2 1x. That’s no big surprise since mechanical GRX 1×12 RX820 is essentially a carbon copy of XT M8100.

Hunting more details on all of these, I also scoured FCC filings. And while filing photos are still protected by confidentiality agreements, Shimano received FCC approvals for 5 new Bluetooth/ANT+ electronic devices in the middle of 2024, including: a ‘motor unit’, a rear derailleur, a flat bar shifter, a second rear derailleur, and a new dual control lever.

All-new XTR brakes coming, too!

next-gen Shimnao XTR Di2 Patent Patrol, new 4-piston brakes

As for new mountain bike brakes, those are probably coming soon, and likely to both XTR & XT, as well.

The key tech innovation in Shimano’s latest brake patent filings is a new lightweight 4-piston layout with one pair of larger ≥19mm pistons that are at least 15% larger than a smaller set of pistons. The claimed benefits include either an increased braking force or a reduction in the amount of hydraulic pressure required to brake. Then additionally, the different piston sizes and their new hydraulic layout also promise more even pad wear and/or improved long-term disc brake caliper durability.

That’s it for new Shimano mountain bike teasers for now. There’s a lot to digest.

We’ll be keeping a close eye out in the XC, Enduro & DH World Cup pits at the start of the season in a few months to see if we can spy some of these goodies up close.

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Tom Wenzel
1 month ago

Liquifying assets in 3..2..1…

Robin
Robin
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wenzel

?

Chris w
Chris w
1 month ago
Reply to  Robin

Not going to have to wait much longer. April!

Bumscag
Bumscag
1 month ago
Reply to  Robin

Because it’s going to be expensive

Chris w
Chris w
1 month ago
Reply to  Bumscag

It’s not, I have a preorder in already but I can’t say pricing due to NDA. All I can say is significantly cheaper than sram. I have t types on other bikes. All you have to do is buy derailleur and shifter combo. No special chain, cassette or crank/chainring.

dan r
dan r
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris w

serious? that sounds amazing,

Bogey
Bogey
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris w

This Is more equivalent to standard AXS and not T-type. You don’t need special cranks, chains, or cassettes for that either.

Griellwe
Griellwe
3 days ago
Reply to  Chris w

Hi, could you tell me please if new crank is same design as old XT/SLX/Deore? What I mean is do cranks have two 5mm allen key pinch bolts and a removable preload nut? It looks like it does, by looking on photos. I need to install SRAM pedal sensor and current XTR cranks will not take it due to single threaded bolt that holds the crank on.

Ritxis
Ritxis
1 month ago
Reply to  Bumscag


Andreas
Andreas
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom Wenzel

maybe liquidating =)

paquo
paquo
1 month ago

sounds like wlreless? i have been waiting so long for this

David
David
1 month ago

Leaked photos are out

Abdullah
Abdullah
1 month ago

Shimano is so good it’s not even funny.

When I see someone with SRAM I know their first love is online shopping not riding bike.

RiccoTampicco
RiccoTampicco
1 month ago
Reply to  Abdullah

Working on it every day, modern shimano drivetrains feel worn out out of the box. T-Type has eclipsed shimano. Shimano is 3 generations behind in shifting performance.

Last edited 1 month ago by RiccoTampicco
David
David
1 month ago
Reply to  RiccoTampicco

As a bicycle repair shop owner, I wholeheartedly have to disagree with this. In my opinion, Shimano still shifts better than SRAM. The newer semi-wireless stuff doesn’t shift as quickly as the old fully wired Di2 but it’s a much nicer shifting experience than any of the SRAM stuff.

TomV
TomV
1 month ago
Reply to  David

SRAM has done an amazing job at marketing an inferior product. Shimano just simply shifts and brakes better. Everything else is immaterial.

Balderdash
Balderdash
1 month ago
Reply to  TomV

New SRAM Red has way better braking performance that Ultegra Di2 12 speed. From the hoods, I easily have more power with 1 finger on the Red than I do with 2 on Ultegra. You’re not wrong about shifting though, particularly up front.

Last edited 1 month ago by Balderdash
TomV
TomV
1 month ago
Reply to  Balderdash

Hahaha, no!

Balderdash
Balderdash
27 days ago
Reply to  TomV

I’m speaking as someone who rides both multiple times per week. Sounds like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Robin
Robin
27 days ago
Reply to  Balderdash

To be fair, humans aren’t exactly accurate or precise sensors. Bias can dominate and influence what our brain tells us, and personal preference is bias. That means that what you judge as being more powerful might be different than what others judge as being more powerful.

I don’t think anyone is going to be lacking brake power in any of the Big 3’s hydraulic disc brakes.

Balderdash
Balderdash
27 days ago
Reply to  Robin

That’s fair, I imagine that hand size can change how different levers feel to different people as well. I will say this though– I can’t lockup the rear wheel of my Force D1 bike with one finger, I can just barely do it on my Ultegra 12 bike, on my Red E1 bike though, it’s not a problem at all.

All three provide adequate braking, but the Force D1 is in 3rd place by a huge margin.

Greg
Greg
1 month ago
Reply to  RiccoTampicco

Not really

Nash
Nash
19 days ago
Reply to  RiccoTampicco

My favorite customer experience was having to pick somebody up 3 miles south of town in our shop van because their etap battery ran out in the MIDDLE of a shift, making their bike completely unrideable. Wonderful technology.

Billyshoo
Billyshoo
27 days ago
Reply to  Abdullah

Even as an AXS fanboy who likes riding bikes and motorcycles much more than online shopping (but a little less than skiing), I still had to give you an upvote for that slam! You’re not wrong about Shimano shifting, though, and I’ve got Shimano Dura-Ace and Ultegra brakes on both my bikes.

Luc
Luc
1 month ago

You can find real pictures of the new xtr already

Jason DW
Jason DW
1 month ago

I am super excited for the lower mechanical prices! The cassettes are still expensive though, they’re dumb however

Robin
Robin
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason DW

Dumb? Why?

john smith
john smith
27 days ago

The new GRX option will be able to use anything you throw at it. Its the answer to AXS and it was due.

seraph
27 days ago
Reply to  john smith

It won’t even come close to competing with AXS.

john smith
john smith
25 days ago
Reply to  seraph

you’ll be fine, I do have a blanket if you want. I run both system and frankly nothing beats shimano in just general quality. Both work well. Fan boys always lose out on the long run. its just a bike part you know, not a tumor or something.

seraph
27 days ago

All this new tech and it still won’t be as good as Eagle AXS or T-Type. Maybe in another 5-10 years they’ll catch up…

Tom Wenzel
26 days ago
Reply to  seraph

For electronic we’ll have to wait and see. For mechanical, SRAM sucks.

Tom Wenzel
10 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wenzel

SRAM CEO downvoted, obvi. Have you used both of them? SRAM mechanical is objectively not as good as Shimano mechanical, period. It’s not an opinion; just go up to a bike with both and click the shifters, simple as that.

Fitness
Fitness
10 days ago
Reply to  Tom Wenzel

You sound like someone who’s never actually shifted an XX level 11/12s mechanical shifter. Your ignorance is showing

Dirt McGirt
Dirt McGirt
24 days ago

oh boy! More expensive shit we don’t need!
WHEEEEEEE!!!

Tom
Tom
24 days ago

Do most “gravelers” “prefer” 1x, or do they just accept it because it’s what nearly every brand slaps on stock builds because it’s cheaper and they’re lazy? I very much dislike 1x.

Last edited 24 days ago by Tom
Nate
Nate
23 days ago
Reply to  Tom

One X is so much better on every bike. Especially on a gravel bike.

Robin
Robin
22 days ago
Reply to  Nate

That’s one opinion.

Gillis
Gillis
22 days ago
Reply to  Tom

2x is way more versatile.

Beacon
Beacon
19 days ago

They just forgot to add the t type connection to the frame. About 7 years to develop a new derailleur and still uses 100 year old tech!?Shimano wtf is going on?

Goran
Goran
17 days ago
Reply to  Beacon

Ever thought that the T type is patent protected?

David
David
5 days ago

Having to charge things defeats the point of a bicycle.

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