Home > Other Fun Stuff > Prototypes & Concepts

Formula Selva XL 180mm double crown fork prototype, lighter than enduro single crowns

Formula Selva XL FR prototype 180mm fork sneak peek, lightweight enduro freeride double-crown MTB fork, Mountain Bike Connection - Rupert Fowler, ride
11 Comments
Support us! Bikerumor may earn a small commission from affiliate links in this article. Learn More

This isn’t a DH fork and Freeride isn’t dead, as Italian suspension specialists Formula are bringing back the double crown with a new 180mm Formula Selva XL enduro fork prototype that’s lighter than any equally long single crown enduro fork. (We’ve even hung it on our scale to be sure!) And with that lightweight double crown comes a unique stiffness that allows for incredibly supple suspension.

So now may be the time to reconsider a double-crown fork!

Formula Selva XL 180mm double crown enduro & freeride fork prototype

Formula Selva XL FR prototype 180mm fork sneak peek, lightweight enduro freeride double-crown MTB fork, Mountain Bike Connection - Rupert Fowler, Andalo corner
ride photos by Rupert Fowler, c. Mountain Bike Connection

It wasn’t so long ago that a 180mm travel double crown fork would have surely been called DH, but that’s totally not the case with this still officially unnamed, extra-long Formula Selva enduro fork.

Formula Selva XL FR prototype 180mm fork sneak peek, lightweight enduro freeride double-crown MTB fork, Mountain Bike Connection - Rupert Fowler, detail

The secret trick is that the new 29er-only 180mm Selva XL FR shares the same lowers as the regular Selva enduro fork, and with it the same 35mm diameter stanchions. While that might seem small for this long travel and full-gas gravity riding, those really large (say 38mm) stanchions of competitors’ 180mm enduro forks come down to being able to take those big gravity forces, and transfer them into a single crown and into the steerer.

The big suspension companies (think: RockShox & Fox) had to go for those massive stanchions to maintain steering precision & front-to-back stiffness what it needed to be to handle ever-steeper and more technical high-speed riding. But doing so may have actually resulted in too stiff of a chassis where the internals couldn’t cope quite as well with the inevitable flex that will always happen on the biggest hits.

So instead, Formula took their proven 35mm Selva platform and gave it an XL boost in stiffness not with bigger stanchions, but with a super light second crown. The idea isn’t to compete with DH forks – Formula already has the Nero there. But instead, to get the uncompromising suppleness of a fork that is plenty stiff, but not too stiff – scaled back for big mountain enduro racing or freeride. Plus, the ability to actually pedal this thing uphill when you need to thanks to the same Selva lockout.

If you look at a full DH fork you’re going to end up with 200mm of travel (10% more than you see here) and weights of at least 2.56kg (RockShox BoXXer, claimed) to 2.62kg (Formula Nero R, claimed) to 2.82kg (Fox 40, claimed) for the lightest, top-spec air fork. That wasn’t the goal at all.

Tech details & Actual prototype weight

Formula wanted to build a double crown 180mm Selva that was lighter than any single crown 180mm enduro fork. And that’s what they did here.

This prototype Selva XL / EN / FR(?) weighed just 2.3kg on our scale, ready to ride with an uncut steerer, and designed for the heaviest enduro & freeride bikes and eMTBs. And Formula says their production version will be under 2.270kg.

Compare that to a claimed Zeb minimum weight of 2.28kg with its 38mm stanchions or Fox 38 where even though Fox claims lighter weights, the lightest we’ve seen with oil in it and a thru-axle has weighed 2.3kg. And it’s our understanding that 38mm, single crown 180mm forks certified for e-bike use are even heavier.

Formula says their lightest 180mm double crown Selva XL can easily handle eMTBs too.

So how is it so light?

Internally-butted 35mm stanchions are a good starting point to keep weight down. Then, just adding the second crown eliminates cantilevered forces at the steerer making everything stiffer even with thinner walls.

And then Formula went to town machining extra grams out of the crowns. When looking at the slightly slower speeds of enduro, freeride, or even bike park riding vs. World Cup Downhill, they realized they could get a much smaller lower crown with only one lower-profile single bolt clamp for each leg.

And then the top crown gets machined even further, with a direct mount stem interface for no-hassle bar mounting & security.

Starting with shared Selva lowers continues Formula’s concept of modularity, but also means that you get more familiar Selva fork travel with enduro-proven internals. In fact, inside the fork is virtually the same as the single-air Selva S.

It has same air volume, the same adjustable & tunable damper in the right leg, and the same lockout for those times you have to pedal uphill. (I pedaled this Selva XL equipped Propain Spindrift up on ski area access road after missing the last uplift, and it wasn’t too painful.)

Without the cantilevered forces of a single crown, the stack height of the lower crown is actually much smaller than the regular Selva. That means you can actually get roughly an extra 10mm of travel with the same axle-to-crown. So you could likely upgrade your current 170mm (single-crown) bike to 180mm (double-crown) travel without changing the geometry.

Ultimately, the double crown brings more adjustability, so you can even fine-tune axle-to-crown a bit to get the perfect setup for your style of riding & terrain.

This is clearly still a prototype, so you aren’t going to be able to buy one right away. But that said, there’s not really any new tech in the fork, so it is essentially ready to go. We’ve been riding it this week in the Dolomites on a Propain Spindrift AL freeride bike, and our first impressions are feeling like a gravity superhero in the bike park.

Pricing & Availability?

Formula Selva XL FR prototype 180mm fork sneak peek, lightweight enduro freeride double-crown MTB fork, Mountain Bike Connection - Rupert Fowler, Big Hero front

As for when it will come to market, Formula promised an official public product launch later this year. And said that the forks will be ready for consumers to ride at the start of 2022 as OEM on bikes and aftermarket. This Propain will likely add a spec option once it is official later this year. As for how much it will ultimately cost, Formula was also vague but assured us that it will be cheaper than a top-tier 38 or Zeb.

From our first impressions – a lighter, stiffer, more supple, more affordable 180mm 29er enduro to freeride fork seems pretty much like a no-brainer. Now we just have to wait a few months until it gets official (and a real name.)

RideFormula.com

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

11 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Rainer Nowacki
Rainer Nowacki
2 years ago

Ups, stiff aluminium stanchions hittig my carbon top tube…

Cary
Cary
2 years ago

Still over 200g heavier than a Manitou Mezzer Pro 180mm.

bmx
bmx
2 years ago

offset needs to be 37mm or no cigar

Erik
Erik
2 years ago

Double crowns make total sense for enduro type bikes instead of single crown large diameter forks (ie 38/Zeb). As long as the weight is the same all I see are benefits.

killerisation
killerisation
2 years ago

The straight crowns mean tight cornering will be a problem.

Tiny Tim
Tiny Tim
2 years ago

Have you ever ridden a dual crown fork before. I have in the past and never had an issue on regular trails even with tight switchbacks. Maybe in some of the places where you are already having to nose wheelie around the corner but then you are not loosing anything with this anyways.

Seraph
Seraph
2 years ago
Reply to  Tiny Tim

A lot of dual crown forks have offset crowns, which will increase the turning radius.

Joe
Joe
2 years ago
Reply to  Seraph

There is no reason a dual crown can not have the same geo as single crown. For example the lefty was dual crown on XC bikes.

Tim
Tim
2 years ago

I think this is a great new option that adds variety to a field crowded with samey options- several single-crown forks with 36, 37 or 38mm stanchions. It also seems like it might be a good replacement in terms of rigidity and smoothness compared to the dear departed Lefty long travel forks. Bravo to Formula for not just trying something a bit different than the rest, but something that also seems to be good from an engineering standpoint.

Mike
Mike
2 years ago

Totally understandable that product launches and availability have been delayed. It’s less understandable that Formula has not said a single word on it since this announcement (from what I can find). Contacted Formula directly and they had nothing to say for dates or general timeframes, even

Eric
Eric
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

It’s too bad, this is exactly what I’m looking for and I like this better than MRPs Bartlett. Guess I’ll just keeping waiting.

Subscribe Now

Sign up to receive BikeRumor content direct to your inbox.

Subscribe Now

Sign up to receive BikeRumor content direct to your inbox.