Thomson Bike Products, long known for precision US-machined aluminum, ventures more into ti with two production titanium bike frames coming soon for gravel & trail mountain biking, plus a titanium version of their always popular 2-bolt seatpost. They’ve also added plenty of carbon road & mountain bars in recent years, which all now get a new matte carbon look.

Thomson Elite Titanium Gravel production ti gravel road bike

Thomson Elite Titanium Gravel production ti gravel road bike

Titanium bikes from Thomson aren’t entirely new, their mountain bike has been available as a custom deal for a while, and we got a good look at the Elite Ti Gravel bike back at NAHBS. But now it looks like the details are settled, production is in process, and you can expect to get ahold of these two models at the start of 2020.

The new bikes are welded from 3/2.5 ti in Asia, and will be available in several stock sizes. The Gravel bike will get a five size range (XS-XL) and looks to get a slightly steeper 70° headtube than when we last saw it, paired with the 74° seattube for more of an on-road feel. Official max tire size is set at 700x42mm with room for mud clearance, but even this display bike had Vredestein’s new 44mm gravel tire.

prototype thomson titanium gravel bike and titanium seatpost

The frame features 12mm thru-axles, flat mount brakes, rear rack & fender mounts, a standard threaded BB, 27.2 post, and modular internal cable routing including for a dropper post (hint: a 27.2 Thomson Covert Dropper internally routed post is in the works.)

The Gravel bike will be available in early 2020 (~Feb/Mar) as a frameset for $3000 including the ti frame, seatpost clamp, carbon fork, bar & stem.

Thomson Elite Titanium 275 production ti trail mountain bike

Thomson Elite Titanium 275 production ti trail mountain bikeThe ti trail hardtail hasn’t changed all that much from Thomson’s original custom Elite 275 mountain bike. Geometry is dialed in for more of a modern long, low & slack ride still with 27.5″ wheels and for longer trail forks from 140-160mm of travel.

Thomson Elite Titanium 275 production ti trail mountain bike

The ti hardtail will have a similar frameset price as the gravel bike (without a fork, but possibly with a dropper) and will also be available in early spring 2020. Three stock frame sizes are expected, with generous tire clearance for at least a 27.5 x 2.4″ trail tire.

The ti hardtail is 1x specific with a Boost rear end, internal routing in the main triangle and stealth dropper routing, a 73mm threaded bottom bracket, and an internal tapered headset.

Thomson Classic Ti Seatpost, machined titanium 2-bolt post

Thomson Classic Ti Seatpost, machined titanium 2-bolt post

The Thomson Ti seatpost was also teased back in March, but now it is said to officially be available. Retail prices is approximately $300, and it comes only in a 27.2mm diameter, in two lengths (350mm (250g) & 410mm (280g). That makes it only a few grams (<10g) lighter than the aluminum Elite (and heavier by ~40g than an aluminum Masterpiece). Weight savings wasn’t the primary concern here, rather the silky smooth ride of titanium with the strength and reliability of a Thomson 2-bolt post.

The 3al2.5v classic Ti post features the same long CNC-machined 7000 series alloy rail cradles as Thomson aluminum posts, but gets new titanium bolts, which might account for the weight savings. Those ti bolts are also expected to be available separately soon to upgrade your current alloy post.

Thomson Carbon in matte, plus new carbon seatpost coming soon

Thomson Carbon in matte, plus new carbon seatpost coming soon

On the carbon front, Thomson wasn’t showing anything entirely new (beyond teasing), but rather a new matte finish that has rolled out across all of their carbon road & mountain bike handlebars as the new standard look. There was more talk of a carbon seatpost, though. It is officially still in the coming soon stage, and is said to fall somewhere in between the weight of the alloy Elite & Masterpiece posts, lighter than the Ti post, with an aim towards vibration damping rather than ultimate weight savings.

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Bmx
Bmx
2 years ago

Not sure they are doing themselves any favours getting these made in Asia, or Asian wherever that is. Would been an easier sell if they got moots or lynskey to make them as they are sure to charging a premium for these and American made does matter to their customers.

Celest Greene
Celest Greene
2 years ago
Reply to  Bmx

I can’t imagine that Thomson didn’t stop at Lynskey first, especially with the new duties on Chinese made frames (if that’s where these are made). Wonder why it didn’t work out.

Is anyone else doing a private label Lynskey any more? Maybe they’re getting out of the contract mfg game.

onrhodes
2 years ago

Still waiting on their “soon to be released” 25mm setback post. I think I first heard about it 3-4 years ago and even had an email response from their tech support in 2016 that it was a “few months away”.

luggednut
2 years ago
Reply to  onrhodes

Me too…pretty much over Thomson now because of this.

Sup Cat
2 years ago
Reply to  luggednut

We actually asked them about it at NAHBS… Believe it or not, it’s not dead yet (or so they say)…

pm732
2 years ago

frames look good, but the cable bosses do look like the foundry/QBP bikes.

also, that carbon post has been in development for ages..

Andrew Fleming
Andrew Fleming
2 years ago

I agree with Bmx above. It’s definitely part of the appeal of Thomson that you’re buying an American made product. Now that I live north of Atlanta, I can boast about GA pride when I buy Thomson. Unless they are trying to make a big entry into the frame market, it seems like a distraction from their value proposition.

gef
gef
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Fleming

Lynskey isn’t that far away and is already in the contract manufacturing business.

Greg
Greg
2 years ago

Jeez, those cable ports are bulky, square edged, and ugly AF. There must be a better way.

Eggs Benedict
Eggs Benedict
2 years ago
Reply to  Greg

I think the cable ports look just fine.

Cyclette
Cyclette
2 years ago
Reply to  Greg

Totally agree.

Fred Gravelly
Fred Gravelly
2 years ago
Reply to  Greg

I’m on thw fence w those cable ports. Why are they so… long??

Greg
Greg
2 years ago
Reply to  Fred Gravelly

Cable ports are long to allow a very shallow exit angle, which is actually very good. See Allied for an example of a steep exit angle, which really sucks for anyone shifting with cables.

mtbinavl
2 years ago

Do you have geo charts on that gravel frame? It looks like it could be a winner

schmamps
schmamps
2 years ago

Echoing every other comment, Thomson needs to stop teasing foreign-made products that get stuck in the pipeline for years. There’s no cost savings if they have nothing to sell, and Made in the USA is the strength of their brand, anyway.

J
J
2 years ago

Another one bites the dust

trundle rocks
trundle rocks
2 years ago

But still no 26mm layback post 🙁

roadstain
2 years ago

I can not wrap my brain around why Sampson need to “specially” machine the BB for their bikes….I heard this directly from them. Something about “their -better- process” requires some machining on the cups on a stock BB system….made no sense to me, thus, they got no cents from me.

roadstain
2 years ago
Reply to  roadstain

CORRECTION – my comment was on Sampson Ti bikes, NOT THOMPSON Ti bikes. It is Sampson that needs some special work done to the BB before an over the counter BB can be installed (they change the unit, not the frame apparently)

Dustytires
2 years ago

For all the effort and cost to develop and inventory these imported products they could have been working on the single, most, important, product they could have offered. A top quality, super reliable, internally routed, multi sized dropper post Made in USA. I am sure that if Ronnie Thomson was buried, he is rolling in his grave. RIP.

Gerald
Gerald
2 years ago

I have several Thomson products, but cannot figure out why they did not go to Lynskey or Lightspeed for their frame production since they are made nearby. I bought a Lynskey gravel bike GR270 earlier this year because I wanted an affordable North American made bike, and shipping to Canada was free.

Bob
Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Gerald

I have to ask, what tangible, measurable benefit does a frame being made in North America have over one that is not? Sorry to single you out but this post has lots of comments about the location of the frames construction and it want to know what that gives the frame that I can see, touch or measure.

Bmx
Bmx
2 years ago
Reply to  Bob

The technology of ti fabrication was developed by Americans and Russians during the cold war it only right that people want the experience of those people making frames. Asian tech is always a poor substitute in my experience. Also jobs for your sons and daughters ffs

TimE
TimE
2 years ago

The frames are most likely made in Vietnam

Ttxxdd
Ttxxdd
2 years ago

Thomson, make a ti stem that’s faceplate wont crack

Astro Kraken
Astro Kraken
2 years ago

Lynskey made frames for Thomson in like 2015 but they were expensive and had retro geometry that people didn’t want anymore.

cat6
cat6
2 years ago

Thomson “prides themselves on being MUSA” but only makes posts, stems and part of the dropper here. Yeah it’s easier to get a frame made here than some handlebars but it’s not like they’re 100% US made everything anyway.

Roger Wagner
Roger Wagner
2 years ago

I’ve used a number of Thomson products over the years and they’ve all been stellar. I have no problem if they take way too long to release products as opposed to putting them out too quickly only to have them fail from rushing to market (the Samsung mobile phone syndrome LOL).

Made in the USA is a hollow argument at best when one considers the number of bicycle components manufactured elsewhere: bolts, bottom brackets, brakes, cables, chains, cranks, forks, grips, hoops, pedals, saddles, rear shocks, tires, tubes, …

OneGearRider (@OneGearRider)

“generous tire clearance for at least a 27.5 x 2.4″ trail tire”
IMO, this isn’t *generous* by today’s standards at all. This SHOULD be a 29/27.5+ frame with clearance for 29×2.6″ and at least 27.5×2.8″. Maybe throw in a SS upgrade as well. Mfg in Asia doesn’t register on the prestige meter either.

pancake adventure
pancake adventure
2 years ago

So last time I checked, Lynskey did not offer butted tubing…kinda something you may want in a Ti frame, right?

ORA from Taiwan (who most likely makes this frame) DOES offer butted tubes, and I can pretty much guarantee that the warranty rate for ORA is WAY lower than Lynskey.